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Category: Futurism 25 comments 31 Mar 2004 @ 04:38 by maxtobin : Back to the one song!!Flemming in his element here eh!! I have a good friend who thinks that it is going to be a real buzz when Gaia has her 'out of body' experience and those who have enlightened their load will travel on with her in that mode and those who are 'hanging on for grim death' to all that is, will experience just that! Oh it is fun when you get to remember to dance and sing is it not!!. I like your descriptions in here Flemming ** That would be wall-to-wall nightmare. Or it will be nirvana and paradise.** hee hee!! I think it may just be both of those options depending upon how one looks at it. 31 Mar 2004 @ 12:57 by swanny : What about reality? I suppose...... reality rears its head from time to time.... Now notice I didn't say ugly head.... Is reality that difficult..... That we become emersed in things that are less real.... Before enlightenment I chopped wood and hauled water... After enlightenment.... I chopped wood and hauled water with a smile.... I think people underestimate the complexity of the natural system which in its self out matches any computer..... swanny 31 Mar 2004 @ 16:26 by ming : Morality Yeah. Actually I personally prefer to use a word like Integrity for that, and would reserve Morality for something a little more superficial. But that doesn't matter, as those are just the words we use. But, yes, I think it is about being in alignment, mostly with ourselves, at all levels. One can sometimes get away with pretending to act morally by displaying some aspects of it, such as speaking morally. But if the ducks aren't lined up, and one actually feels and thinks differently, it comes back to haunt you sooner or later. Most speakers against "bad morals" I see on TV have obviously (to me) some things to hide about what they really feel. The crusader against indecency is very often a depraved pervert in private, but won't admit it to themselves. And when the different levels of ourselves line up, things just happen more naturally, as we don't have to cover up the hidden lack in one place with an obsessive expression in another. If we take responsibility for ourselves, and we agree with ourselves, and what we're about is basically good, then life is really more simple, and we can relax and be at peace. 31 Mar 2004 @ 18:04 by Seb @156.34.16.167 : Fascinating Fascinating post. You wrote "things tend to not happen before we're somewhat ready for them." which reminded me of a though I had earlier today: it typically doesn't pay for an individual to be too much ahead of his time. You may have invented the coolest device or methodology, if the world is not ready for it you'll have a hard time pushing it - think Doug Engelbart. Whereas the tipping point comes easily if you come at the right time. (But in that case you can't take too much credit, what you help happen is going to happen anyway.) And this makes me think perhaps there is an excessive cult of personality around those people who managed to strongly associate their identity with something that was about to make big waves at the right time. In the sense that we perhaps give them more credit than they really deserve. 31 Mar 2004 @ 19:39 by ming : Things that need to happen Yeah, I think it is often that something just needs to happen. It is in the air, and it might surface in all sorts of places. I think it is great that there exist people who're more likely than others to stick their neck out and make it happen. But I don't think we should put too much value on it either. Often the same idea is put forward by several people, independently of each other. Just because "its time has come". And, for me, that also speaks against the idea of intellectual property. The person who happens to say it first, or who happens to run to the patent office first, shouldn't fairly have all the credit and the ownership for the idea. Right now we obviously need something to replace spam-ridden e-mail. There is a great need for it, and it is inevitable that an alternative will emerge. Whatever it turns out to be that really works for us, chances are that a bunch of people had been working along the same lines, independently of each other. So, let them have great honor and prestige. Innovators are to be celebrated and supported. But don't let them own it as intellectual property for eternity. 31 Mar 2004 @ 23:44 by magical_melody : He he, Ming is at it again! I love reading logs like this Flemming, when you give lots of thought to matters such as these, and tell us a good story in the process. I find I often laugh and feel lots of resonance with some of the conclusions you come to regards the funny circumstances that could or have resulted, or the interesting things people do in specific situations. And then you write funny lines like this one: "The crusader against indecency is very often a depraved pervert in private," ****** For sure! It is amazing to see how people do create their lives, and if we are really good at connecting the dots, we can see how skilled many people already are when it comes to instant manifestation. Flemming, now that would be a good dialogue in here, people sharing their instant manifestation stories. 1 Apr 2004 @ 00:48 by skookum : Reality I think when I read this sort of thing that most of us are somewhere between 3D and 4D. Now...I know a few that are more into 4D than I am right now. The point is, reality is really a perceptual, spiritual thing. Technologies growing beyond our capabilities of handing them? Nothing new there. My daughter is in the process of a school project of the heresy trial of Galileo. He had scientifically discovered things about our solar system and our place in it that so challenged the thinking of the day that his life was on the line. His discoveries threatened the religious dogma of the day. Does our spiritual growth hinge on what we learn technologically? Or is it the other way around? I need to study this more. Fascinating food for thought Ming. Thank you. Marissa 1 Apr 2004 @ 04:05 by swanny : Christmas everyday Hmmm while this is quite enlightening perhaps in terms of process ..... I suspect for myself it is somewhat deficient in scope To me this existence is not merely about the fufillment of gratification of body or mind or spirit etc etc. the being Christmas everyday senario with an endless array of presents to be opened.... or the aquistion or manifestation of desire.... which I suppose would be nice for awhile but...... etc etc. To me part of the value and beauty of existence is its inherant mystery and as well the concepts of others and the unknown....... To be as it were or suggests God from a humanistic frame of reference would be somewhat boring and a burden with all of its responsibilities..... or....?? well while I think it presents an intriqueing line of thought I find the sheer and endless mysterious nature of life the real joy value and beauty of being.......and then theres aspects too as well which are sort of gray like caring and manifesting for others..... intercession as it were...... I suppose then it is to singular for my tastes..... but top marks on presentation.... swanny 1 Apr 2004 @ 05:00 by swanny : Smashing atoms..... As far as pushing the wrong button ..... well I suppose its more or less already happened.... Ive heard that when they were developing the atomic bomb some theorized that setting off a nuclear reaction might in effect destory the earth....... others felt that not possible.... that man were not that bright..... but still others felt that containment was a key issue so the decision had to be made the risks and benefits were I suppose calculated weighed and considered and yet even with the possibility of global incineration the deed was done and this is by supposed rational people there will then perhaps always be unknowns and perhaps the earth was in a sense destoryed Certainly a barrier was crossed...... a somewhat sacred barrier to some.... The apple of the tree had been bitten into....... was it wrong then...... perhaps yes and no...... things were lost ..... other things gained...... is now better than then ...... well perhaps again yes and no........ so...... whats my context?..... I suppose every advance is a setback of sorts at the same time.... and that there are gains and losses..... what is the final outcome To me ...... "The this is a mysterious and unfathomable place and that life is all together to short" Don Juan of Carlos Casteneda swanny 1 Apr 2004 @ 05:24 by ming : Christmas everyday Life has to have mystery in it in order to be interesting, of course. It wouldn't really be that much fun if you had everything you wanted and you knew everything there was to know. If you were in that situation you might well invent some game that involved forgetting some of it again, and making some things hard, so you could have fun figuring it out again. However, there's nothing wrong with moving up a level or two. Life works best if some things are a little hard, and some things are a bit mysterious. But it kind of sucks if the hard parts are how to find food for your children to eat and how to find shelter from the incoming rocket attacks, and the mysterious parts are why the hell life might be worth living and whether or not the secret police will arrest you tomorrow. You might just as well find adventure and excitement a couple of steps up Maslow's hierarchy of needs. For that matter, you can concentrate on the adventure and excitement, and actually enjoy it, when it isn't always about your fundamental survival and sanity. I don't think we particularly get done. If you suddenly have teleportation technology and can travel anywhere in the universe, then there are a whole lot of mysteries to explore for quite some time, and no lack of excitement. If you get done, then you might work on the mystery of time travel, or you might wonder what the heck is going on outside the universe. If you can create a ferrari on the matter compiler in your kitchen just as easily as you can microwave a bag of popcorn, then it of course no longer is a very good game to work hard in order to buy a ferrari some day, and it is no longer a good game to drive around and flaunt it to people who can't afford one. You'd have to invent a better game. 1 Apr 2004 @ 12:39 by skookum : We don't appreciate things handed to us easily. A better game...with higher stakes I imagine? 1 Apr 2004 @ 19:33 by skookum : Shifts I don't know. Post modernism is a change in how we see things, what is acceptable etc. I always thought though that the 'shift' from 3D to 4D was a deeper change. That it was more of a change from materialism and the belief that the physical world was all there is, to a mode of thought and spiritual understanding of things not seen, or easily perceived and being able to manipulate the physical world with thoughts concentrated into the spritual realm or imagination perhaps. I am no doubt over my head here. lol 2 Apr 2004 @ 09:48 by ming : Post-Modernism I didn't think of it, but you're kind of right about that, Roger. 3D sounds a good deal like modernism, and 4D a whole lot like post-modernism. I think the 3D/4D model probably digs a bit deeper, but it is probably useful to examine the parallels. So, whereas modernism, or 3D, was about a very linear and "rational" way of doing things, post-modernism, or 4D, allows you to sort of pick and choose, or just mix things together. And it sheds some light on the post-modern idea that there's no truth, or any truth can be as good as any other. That's maybe the "negative" or pessimistic way of looking at it. Making it sound like everything is meaningless. Where the positive view is that it is just more up to you, and anything is possible. You choose your truth, and that doesn't necessarily make it less true. You don't get your "meaning" served to you by your family and race and education and company, like you did in 3D. You can decide for yourself what is meaningful for you, picking from the whole kaleidoscope of cultural possibilities. And if you can get excited about it, and broadcast it well enough around you, you are free to make it happen right away. 14 Apr 2004 @ 10:50 by Daniel @216.17.228.21 : Higher Dimensions This stuff if brilliant! (Okay, so I just wanted to show up on the Blog.) But Siriusly, this is really where it's at, and Consciousness being what it is, it all comes down to developing our consciousness so that we can evolve into whichever dimension we prefer. The good news is that the universe has some built in safeguards, so we don't leap into a higher dimension than we're ready for. (And as an unrepentant aside, check out: http://www.halexandria.org/dward632.htm) 15 Jul 2004 @ 18:07 by ov : Singularity Thank you Anthony for this link on the Isdom of Wisdom. I have made some comments on this, and connected it in with a memeplex, over in my blog {link:newciv.org/nl/newslog.php?did=335&vid=335&xmode=show_article&amode=standard&aoffset=0&artid=000335-000024&time=1089939771|OrgasmoVolution} 16 Jul 2004 @ 09:19 by ming : Isdom Ah, Tony, that is wonderful stuff, as always. I'm going to quote some of that. 16 Jul 2004 @ 15:03 by Elizaberh @24.69.255.237 : NULTI DIMENSIONAL KALEIDOSCOPIC ISness CONGRATULATIONS ** your synthesization of such a vast concept is greatly acknowledged and appreciated..and doing it on a metaphysical/energetic level as well as on an intellectual/technological level >> standong 'O'. I THINK .. LIFE is on the move. Cycles come and go. Within the scope of a cycle is drama - information - opportunity - lessons - living - dying - etc. .. it is all Energy. There are bands of vibrational frequencies. Every thought/action/feeling/colour/sound.. vibrates to its own frequency.. comes together and creates its own world. .. that LIFE is not diminished by 'knowing' or 'not knowing'. It is & always will be = more than the sum of its parts. The tip of my iceberg for now ** delightfully intrigued ** thanks for the forum 9 Jan 2006 @ 01:14 by reality @24.11.43.235 : wow... Wow, just wow. I'm amazed that people believe this. 8 Aug 2006 @ 06:23 by dkerta @61.14.30.165 : pre-deterministic human never really know when it will be ready - they will ready when it happened, and it stated already in the book of G-d. Either 1 up to 7, the last thing remind is the soul or spirit, and it's belong to HIM. 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