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Category: Violence, War 4 comments 1 Mar 2005 @ 20:35 by Quinty @68.226.90.181 : Glen MillerThere some major differences between the two wars. One, the US had to fight fascism in Europe. Iraq was an imperial war of choice. Backing the troops in WWII meant supporting the war effort to defeat fascism. In Iraq it means bringing the troops home as soon as possible in order not to waste more lives. While FDR may not have been completely honest with the American people, fascism was indeed evil and a threat to the world. Germany and Japan were major imperial powers. Whereas GWB lied the American people into a needless war with a broken county which was a threat to nobody. Only the most self deluded still accept the administration's lies which is why there is only shallow popular support today. The great songs which came out of the Vietnam war were all anti war songs. As far as I know there are no songs, so far, which have come out of our escapade in Iraq. Glen Miller somehow caught the spirit of the times with his marvelous music. Who can ever forget hearing "In the Mood" or "Tuxedo Junction" for the first time? We were a better, more generous, and more courageous country then. Today we have an administration which has manipulated fear, ignorance, bigotry, and the basest forms of religious dogma to advance its agenda. One which seems to best benefit Halliburton and not the American people. 2 Mar 2005 @ 08:23 by jazzolog : My Friend Replies This response came almost at once yesterday afternoon, and I regret not getting it posted earlier. He has given permission to share his thoughts however I see fit, which is a very cool way friends often feel about each other. By the way, this roommate is not Quinty, who kindly contributes just above and who was another roommate of mine. I had 3---none of whom graduated under my auspices, a curious fact I prefer not to look into too hard. -------------------------------------------------- Richard, In response to your last post: We are not asked to sacrifice as much, because this war does not cost as much. More servicemen died in the first 10 minutes of the Normandy invasion than have died in Afghanistan and Iraq. It has not required as much material and personnel. I certainly don't sense any pressure to go to the mall or buy stock in a global corporation to support the war. Are you getting pop-up ads or mass-mailings that have eluded me? I sense that the many people who put metallic ribbons on their vehicles do so because of the relentless negativity of the dominant culture in the media and academia toward the war on terror, and because the movies, radio, tv do not represent their views, they think they must speak out on their own. This is quite different than World War II. (And a mirror of the Vietnam War coverage--the filter through which every subsequent military action is viewed). Then we made movies in support of our troops. Today, every version of Law and Order, for instance, has a show in which Muslims are unfairly treated, the Patriot Act is being used for terrible things, etc.--not supported by any evidence, but only by the fever swamp nightmares of Hollywood liberals. That this same media has been relentless wrong does not matter, the talking heads and Times op-ed thumb suckers just move on to the next "quagmire." The Taliban was defeated, the Al Queda training camps destroyed, free elections were held in Afghanistan, Iraq was defeated, Hussein captured, his sociopathic sons killed, free elections were held despite a wave of terror bombings, Arafat died leading to the first progress in Israeli-Palestinian conflict in 30 years, and the possiblility of building the platform for a lasting peace, Libya suddenly plays good doggie and rolls over to have it's belly scratched and says it will stop supporting terrorism, the Lebanese people--Muslim and Christian--force out of office the proto-Fascist Syrian pupppet government, there is movement in Egypt to have free elections and remove the Murbarak dynasty, Saudi Arabian Wahabbist charities that spread the jihad hatred are being shut down all over the world, Syria gives up Hussein's half-brother to Iraqi officials, the Ukraine has it's "orange revolution." And the Western press and academia squirm because it is all a direct consequence of Chimpy Bushhitler the Moron. If you wish to make a sacrifice for the war effort may I suggest a donation to the Fallen Heroes Fund which distributes money to the families in need of servicemen and women who have died in Iraq and Afghanistran. Here is the website: http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/foundation_heroesfund.html 20 Apr 2005 @ 07:19 by jazzolog : Ann Coulter On The Cover Of TIME TIME Shampoos Attack Poodle Posted by James Wolcott It's not worth wasting any more outrage on the subject of Ann Coulter. We all know what she is, and can hear in the brief quiets between her brash pronouncements the squeal and squeak of mice running wild in the messy hayloft of her mind. She's an empty uproar with long legs and long shiny hair and a reputation for extending the cocktail hour indefinitely that casts her with what Paddy Chayevsky emphemistically "an aura of availability." Middle-aged men and younger can daydream that if they met her under under auspicious circs, as they say in Bertie Wooster novels, they might have a shot, a reverie harder to entertain about Wonkette, whose wedding ring is powered with a special wolf-repellent ray. Coulter may have female fans, I wouldn't know, but her media stardom is primarily a male fantasy that is both sexist and racist. She is the pinup pundit of White Prerogative, her arrogant vanity perfect for a country and a media-political culture that refuse to recognize its postindustrial decline and decay. A country that still thinks it can whip the world into obeying its will. But as I say, she is what is synthetically is, and is unlikely to change or deepen. Why should she, when mocking a Max Cleland or spouting anti-Muslim hate brings her such reward? No, it's the editors of Time who should hide and hang their heads as they perp-walk from corporate HQ to a rented bus. They should go off on a corporate retreat and stay there. Just not come back. Let the junior staffers and interns and messengers put out the magazine--it would probably be an improvement, and even if it weren't, the end-result probably wouldn't gleam with jaded calculation. It might have a smidgen of honest conviction. A few weeks ago, the legendary stock-market observer and commentator Richard Russell, a bombardier during WWII and hardly a dreamy liberal, said he picked up an issue of Time after not having read it for awhile and wondered what in the hell had happened to the magazine. It was all 'God, let's clean up the airwaves, and Bush-was-right.' (Presumably, Russell was referring to this {link:http://www.time.com/time/columnist/krauthammer/article/0,9565,1035052,00.html} from--who else?--Charles Krauthammer, who, between his syndicated column and frequent appearances on Fox News, doesn't get near enough exposure for his views.) And now, a week after including her among the "100 Influentials," Time puts Ann Coulter on the cover, runs a photo from a bogus rally http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/04/time-mag-publishes-fake-photo-of.html inside to supplement a text better suited to a lad's mag for lads who wear penny loafers. Bush reelection must have freaked the newsweeklies because ever since these high-floor Manhattan editors have been falling all over themselves to cater to Red State tastes in religion, pop culture, and politics. Before long editors and columnists will be sporting Nascar jackets in the cafeterias and refinancing their coops through Ditech and finding an exurbia megachurch they can commute to to share a slip-covered pew with David Brooks. The slumming populism of the press under Bush could gag a horse. Given Bush's unpopularity http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=557 , you'd think a clue or two might have wafted by now into the studios and newsrooms. On his Sunday show, Chris Matthews tried to frame the hostility toward Tom DeLay as the product of a stuckup Eastern elite towards a real Texas barbecue kinda guy. Since Matthews and his wife have a $4-million dollar house on Nantucket, it's a bit rich for him to act as he isn't a member of the very elite he is portraying as snobbish, etiolated, and out of touch; you don't jaunt to Nantucket to get closer to the proles and their barstool wisdom (which has furnished Mike Barnicle with so many pithy anecdotes over the years). Moreover, DeLay's luxury junkets to Scottish golf courses and London four-star hotels hardly suggest a Merle Haggard figure riding the bus through the American night as a diner beckons in the distance. On Matthews' panel was a smiling Elisabeth Bumiller of The New York Times, who has become the press's premiere giftwrapper of populist bullshit, as the Daily Howler documents--well, start here http://dailyhowler.com/ . 04.18.05 5:47PM James Wolcott is a VANITY FAIR contributing editor http://jameswolcott.com/archives/2005/04/time_shampoos_a.php 23 Apr 2005 @ 16:43 by Quinty @68.226.90.181 : Over the top I have to admit that I'm fascinated by Ann Coulter. And by O'Reilly. They are so outrageous, over the top in a ferocious, ambitious, and ruthless way that I sometimes watch them, in awe, utterly amazed, without, if I may say so myself, a bit of snobbery, at their enormous popularity. Their draw. And tomorrow we will have something called "Justice Sunday," when all the sub-plotters from Elmer Gantry will come out en mass. It's not so much that they will actually have a huge nationally televised evangelical revival but that many of the top men in our government will be there. What can one say when things have become, well, so completely crazy? It's as if all these people were exerting themselves to be even more crazy, for crazy is not enough. And one can always leap a little higher toward the moon. And perhaps get there. With faith and conviction and a ferocious bullying manner. Well, I'll stop exploring for words to describe this bizarre phenomenon. But you know what I mean. I, frankly, can not wait to see this giant televangelical event. I'm fascinated by it. (But not, I hope, in a snobbish way.) ######################### The event to which Paul refers is described in this brief Newsday article~~~ {link:http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-filibuster-church,0,2971547.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines} Other entries in Violence, War 27 May 2010 @ 13:49: Memorial Day, 2010, A National Disgrace 28 Dec 2008 @ 06:42: Endless Israeli Atrocity 28 Nov 2008 @ 07:39: Myth of Thanksgiving 8 Nov 2008 @ 15:46: War Hurts Families 21 Oct 2008 @ 08:33: 36 MILLION DEAD BY AMERICA’S AGGRESSIONS, WHAT SAYETH OBAMA? 5 Sep 2008 @ 11:35: BEIJING OLYMPICS: LAST GAMES, AS WORLD WAR III COMES 17 Aug 2008 @ 12:48: AUGUSTUS CEASAR OR BONAPARTE RETURNED TO ROLE-PLAY GLOBAL TYRANT 9 Apr 2008 @ 15:44: An Introduction To Social Pathology Of Police And Federal Agents 3 Apr 2008 @ 18:10: Few Care To Listen, *Until They Discover That... 12 Nov 2007 @ 11:23: Re: happy veteran's day & Pakistan?
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