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New Civilization News: An Open Letter To Amy Goodman |
Category: Globalization 21 comments 26 Jan 2008 @ 19:10 by Sean M. Madden @89.242.1.240 : Author's CommentReaders of the Amy Goodman piece which Richard included above may be interested in reading a further comment which I published to my "Open Letter" post on my iNoodle.com blog: http://inoodle.com/2008/01/open-letter-to-amy-goodman.html 26 Jan 2008 @ 20:11 by jazzolog : Two Distinguished Comments Yes, hehheh thank you. I imagine the bodyguard didn't have much to do, since local gendarmes supplied by taxpayers like you and me always protect the dignitaries at these gatherings. Get one of Prison Planet's free videos, Vax, to watch everyone kept at Bush-type distance from the limos and their contents. Of course no reporters allowed either: trade secrets. It's astonishing to me that Mr. Madden himself found this piece within 8 hours of post. Google is on the job! He refers to a comment he wrote at the original article, which I'll gladly reproduce here~~~ Sean M. Madden said... Thank you, Bruce and Daniel, for your comments, and to those of you who have written to me via email. Bruce, your points are well taken. I agree that Amy has done much to wake people up to U.S. imperialism, for instance. That's good. But to the extent that her coverage is aimed at the symptoms rather than the roots of the problems, the larger impact, I think, is to forge another layer of protection between the people and those individuals and institutions who have an outsized influence on our lives. Also, perpetual symptomatic reporting causes many to feel angry, powerless and despairing. With regard to your initial point, readers cannot know whether I, myself, am pedaling yet another layer of obfuscation, further splintering the left. (An important aside: I don't consider myself to be on the left or right, a progressive or a conservative. Rather, I see this dichotomous language, itself, as being dangerously divisive and is exploited as such. I realize, however, that many of Amy's fans do consider themselves to be progressives and that DN! is a progressive program.) That is why it is critical that we take a proactive stance and seek out information for ourselves. Otherwise, we are wholly dependent upon our faith in trusted persons or media outlets to furnish information which is crucial to achieving and maintaining any semblance of democracy. Interestingly, I have often wondered whether Daniel's voluminous criticism on various progressive message boards (e.g., Media Lens) is just that, an attempt by someone who seems to have an abundance of time on his hands to argue for argument's sake, or perhaps to splinter discussions. Readers should know that Daniel and I have shared much correspondence on the topics of politics, media analysis, conspiracy theories, etc. We, ultimately, reached an impasse. Daniel is a former New York Times and Reuters foreign correspondent who is presently working for an investment management firm in London. Readers may find this relevant given David Rockefeller's statement included within my letter in which he thanks the New York Times and other such media outlets for their decades-long cooperation with the cabal's objectives. Also given Rockefeller's explicit statement that "[t]he supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." But, of course, no conspirators have total control of a situation. I would have thought this would go without saying. However, individuals do strategize toward common objectives, oftentimes in secrecy or without disclosure. This occurs in every government administration and within at least every publicly traded corporation. In other words, conspiracies happen despite the fact that we've all been well-conditioned to not utter the word or anything which would suggest that they exist, to say nothing of being widespread. What, after all, do intelligence agencies do if not conspire, extralegally and in secret? But, ultimately, this seems a silly subject to debate. David Rockefeller herein admits to the charges. Furthermore, and more generally, to think conspiracies don't happen would be to suggest that we're all floating within a world of happenstance. Human agency exists. Are we to believe that nations, wars, laws, financial markets, mandates and directives simply emanate without purpose from government and corporate offices, for instance? Also, Daniel, I don't think that the cabal has achieved (or will ever achieve) total, puppet-like, control. Is the achievement of absolute, total control the point at which we can say that a conspiracy has occurred? Rockefeller, in thanking servile journalists, has admitted to the cabal's achieving at least some measure of success thus far. It is also interesting to consider that he finally feels it safe (or perhaps expedient), after decades of public disavowals, to state the obvious in his memoir. Nor do I think the cabal's influence is limited to, say, an annual Bilderberg meeting. As reported in a January 2000 Forbes article about David Rockefeller's rolodex, "Rockefeller spends less than half the year at his home in New York City. The rest of the time he's traveling, either for Chase or such groups as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission or Rockefeller University." Why would we assume that the influence of some of the world's most powerful individuals would only rise up at an annual meeting? Daniel, as I have shared with you (via in-person conversations and extended email discussions) quite a lot concerning my personal philosophy and my meditation practice (in which you have also received third-party training), you should know that I see the world as being infinitely complex and interdependent. That is, that all phenomena, in Buddhist terminology, co-originate, or mutually condition one another. So let us not assume for argument's sake -- particularly in our case whereby we have shared so much and so much more refined argumentation -- overly simplistic and tired points of contention, or to rerun the whole gamut of our one-to-one discussion thread from Step One. Life's too short. To preclude the necessity of having to state more of the obvious, no, I don't believe Amy Goodman nor David Rockefeller are evil incarnate, nor that we can drive all blames into one, toward them as individuals. The world and its goings-on are complex and multifaceted. That is not to say, however, that some individuals do not have far greater means than most to influence the thoughts and actions of others. Few would deny David Rockefeller's outsized power and proven propensity to influence individuals or society as a whole towards his publicly stated aims. And Amy certainly isn't without considerable voice and influence. The one-hour Democracy Now! program is broadcast on over 650 television and radio stations, five days a week. Her nationally syndicated column and her bestselling book give her further reach into the public consciousness. As public figures who seek to influence, they are open, as am I, to criticism. I harbor nothing personal against Amy Goodman or David Rockefeller. I like Amy as a person, and I think would get on quite well with her. Rather, I think it important that their work be held up for scrutiny, a naturally democratic process which it is obvious from David's statement contained in my letter he sees as a process in opposition to the internationalists’ aims. Speaking of which, readers may find this article on David Rockefeller, part of a larger piece on "Rockefeller Internationalism", to be of interest. http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/rockefeller.3.html Sean Sat Jan 26, 02:32:00 PM http://inoodle.com/2008/01/open-letter-to-amy-goodman.html 26 Jan 2008 @ 20:28 by vaxen : The Future Leonard Cohen The Future http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4278/babe3nm2.jpg Give me back my broken night My secret room, my secret life Its lonely here Theres no one left to torture Give me absolute control Over every living soul And lie beside me, baby Thats an order! Give me crack and anal sex Take the only tree thats left And stuff it up the hole In your culture Give back the berlin wall Give me stalin and st. paul Ive seen the future, brother It is murder Chorus Things are going to slide in all directions Wont be nothing Nothing you can measure anymore The blizzard of the world Has crossed the threshold And it has overturned The order of the soul When they said repent I wonder what they meant When they said repent I wonder what they meant When they said repent I wonder what they meant You dont know me from the wind You never will, you never did Im the little jew Who wrote the bible Ive seen nations rise and fall Ive heard their stories, heard them all But loves the only engine of survival Your servant here, he has been told To say it clear, to say it cold Its over, it aint going Any further And now the wheels of heaven stop You feel the devils riding crop Get ready for the future It is murder Chorus Therell be the breaking of the ancient Western code Your private life will suddenly explode Therell be phantoms Therell be fires in the road And the white man dancing Youll see the woman Hanging upside down Her features covered by her fallen gown And all the lousy little poets Coming round Trying to sound like charlie manson Give me back the berlin wall Give me stalin and st. paul Give me christ Or give me hiroshima Destroy another fetus now We dont like children anyhow Ive seen the future, baby It is murder http://www.rense.com/general77/chinsec.htm The UN has officially announced what the fearmongering about man-made global warming has been designed to justify all along - a global carbon tax which will do nothing to reduce carbon emissions but everything to feed the trough of world government. Over one hundred prominent scientists signed a letter dismissing the move as a futile bureaucratic scheme which will diminish prosperity and increase human suffering. http://saynototyranny.blogspot.com/ For example, Gore claims that Himalayan glaciers are shrinking and global warming is to blame. Yet the September 2006 issue of the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate reported, "Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame." http://saynototyranny.blogspot.com/2007/12/alarmist-global-warming-claims-melt.html Especially thanks for the last piece - 'alarmist-global-warming-claims-melt' to be found in it's entirety at the link above (Tee Hee!) - "Sean..." WTG! 26 Jan 2008 @ 21:07 by a-d : Uuuuhhh,Jazzo, THANKS for that Mindful Living Guide link!!! " by Carla Royal Wherever I am, the world comes after me. It offers me its busyness. It does not believe that I do not want it. Now I understand why the old poets of China went so far and high into the mountains, then crept into the pale mist." to ALL who stumbles upon this article of Richard's: READ (and really absorb) the whole Mindful Page! you will NOT need to regret it! You can drop a lot of reading IF you read that one!Soooooo much to UN-learn...and sooo little time!...... 27 Jan 2008 @ 15:02 by jerryvest : Thanks, Richard...Like others, I especially enjoyed the "mindfulliving guide". I had not heard Matthew Ricard speak about meditation though I have read some of the studies re; the benefits of meditation. I am currently teaching a meditation class with the soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan who have sustained serious injuries of body, mind and spirit. I am hopeful that this discussion can be helpful to many who are looking for inner peace, confidence and fulfillment in their lives. I really appreciate your resourcefulness and your contributions to our work with those we serve. Jerry 27 Jan 2008 @ 16:20 by vaxen : Liberty or? The UN has officially announced what the fearmongering about man-made global warming has been designed to justify all along - a global carbon tax which will do nothing to reduce carbon emissions but everything to feed the trough of world government. Over one hundred prominent scientists signed a letter dismissing the move as a futile bureaucratic scheme which will diminish prosperity and increase human suffering. http://saynototyranny.blogspot.com/ For example, Gore claims that Himalayan glaciers are shrinking and global warming is to blame. Yet the September 2006 issue of the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate reported, "Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame." Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" fits exactly into the Malthusian mold. The current, hopefully short, dearth of sun spots might cause people to recognize Maurice Strong's and Al Gore's lies. Maurice Strong has been behind the Rio and the Kyoto Agreements too. Strong's paradigm is Malthusian. http://saynototyranny.blogspot.com/2007/12/alarmist-global-warming-claims-melt.html Democracy Now! - Audio and Transcript Independent journalist Allan Nairn and American Conservative correspondent Kelley Beaucar Vlahos discuss a little-addressed facet of the 2008 campaign: many of the top advisers to leading presidential candidates are ex-U.S. officials involved in atrocities around the world. Advisers to Hillary Rodham Clinton include many former top officials in President Clinton’s administration: former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, former National Security Adviser Samuel Berger, former UN Ambassador Richard Holbrooke. Senator Barack Obama’s list includes President Carter’s National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski, former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, former Middle East negotiator Dennis Ross. Rudolph Giuliani’s advisers include Norman Podhoretz, one of the fathers of the neoconservative movement. John McCain’s list of official and formal policy advisers includes former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, General Colin Powell, William Kristol of The Weekly Standard, and former CIA Director James Woolsey. One of Mitt Romney’s top advisers is Cofer Black, the former CIA official who now serves as vice chair of Blackwater Worldwide. Vice President Dick Cheney’s daughter Elizabeth is advising Fred Thompson. As for Mike Huckabee, it’s not clear. In December, Huckabee listed former UN Ambassador John Bolton as someone with whom he either has “spoken or will continue to speak,” but Bolton then revealed the two had never spoken. Huckabee also named Richard Allen, but the former National Security Adviser also admitted he had never spoken to Huckabee. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18991.htm Alan Nairn's Blog "News and Comment" http://newsc.blogspot.com/ 28 Jan 2008 @ 09:35 by vaxen : Good Old Bacon ”Life's most persistent and urgent question is, 'What are you doing for others?'” ~MLK “The hope of a secure and livable world lies with disciplined nonconformists who are dedicated to justice, peace and brotherhood.” ~MLK “Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.” ~MLK “We must use time creatively.” ~MLK From the Inside Out He has also reported his findings on 9/11 coverage to the Senate Intelligence Committee. From the Wilderness (FTW) website confirms that the complete version of Izvestia coverage came into its possession "thanks to former CIA counter-terror case officer, Leutrell Osborne .... The story had been brought to his attention by his Russian-speaking son and had fortunately been saved in its original form before it was sanitized of several key sentences". The original unsanitized version curiously began: "Yesterday at the headquarters of Central Intelligence Service in Langley a confidential meeting between one of the Deputy Directors of CIA and a special messenger of Russian Intelligence Service took place. According to NewsRu sources he delivered to his American colleagues some documents including audio tapes with telephone conversations directly relating to terrorist attacks on Washington and New York last Tuesday. According to these sources, Russian Intelligence agents know the organizers and executors of these terrorist attacks. More than that, Moscow warned Washington about preparation to these actions a couple of weeks before they happened." WTC 7 collapse reported 30 minutes before it happened Live BBC footage broadcast on 9/11 http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/88.html ||| http://beyondmkultra.50megs.com/whats_new_8.html === If you were after you, do you think you could get you? "Absolutely! I can get anyone if I wanted them badly enough." What information would you shake out of yourself? "I'd want to know where the Wanta money is right now. Who in the Pentagon has done wrong? Who killed who-black ops-illegal arms trades, where are blueprints, the docs you brought back from Moscow? Where's Susanna at? Was it her or Oleg who poisoned Bastien? And did McComb County give up Bobby Moore intentionally? Who shot Foster?" When did you leave ONI? "Ninteen-ninety-eight." Why? "The opportunity came, I was getting old, I don't like getting shot, getting stabbed." http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/092602_vreeland_gnn.html 28 Jan 2008 @ 20:07 by vaxen : And... just to pop ol jazzo's log back up to the top I'll entre this, si vouz please, and hope you know for whom that bell doth toll... Just spreading the end of love around 'nd hope you don't mind too much. I was in Saint Petersburg, Russia, when I first heard this song. I was with a beautiful lady...blonde...of course...and it was snowing on the square. "Touch me with your naked hand, touch me with your glove..." Her eyes were the most beautiful green color that I've ever seen...and her name was? Fort Bliss! Dance Me to the End of Love Written and Performed by Leonard Cohen Dance me to your beauty with a burning violin Dance me through the panic 'til I'm gathered safely in Lift me like an olive branch and be my homeward dove And dance me to the end of love Yeah, dance me to the end of love Oh let me see your beauty when the witnesses are gone Let me feel you moving like they do in Babylon Show me slowly what I only know the limits of And dance me to the end of love Dance me to the end of love Dance me to the wedding now, dance me on and on Dance me very tenderly and dance me very long We're both of us beneath our love... both of us above And dance me to the end of love Yeah, dance me to the end of love Dance me to the children who are asking to be born Dance me through the curtains that our kisses have outworn Raise a tent of shelter now, though every thread is torn And dance me to the end of love Dance me to your beauty with a burning violin Dance me through the panic till I'm gathered safely in Touch me with your naked hand... touch me with your glove Dance me to the end of love Dance me to the end of love Dance me to the end of love http://solosong.net/danceme.html DAVOS next year? 28 Jan 2008 @ 21:08 by vaxen : Les yeux sans visage and the intrepid jazzolog...of course. There is a control at the bottom of the page so, if you can, let the page load (Vista still slow jazzo?) and if the song doesn't automatically play...sue me. ;) Adiemus http://ladynwavs.com/adiemus/ldywvs1.jpg http://ladynwavs.com/adiemus.html & http://ladynwavs.com/eyeswithoutaface.html It is said that purple is suggestive of controlled passion, seriousness and creativity. People who favor purple tend to be emotional, creative, and sophisticated. Purple is often associated with mystery, wisdom, and the spiritual. It is defined as elegant and refined, especially when used in it's deepest, darkest shades. 28 Jan 2008 @ 23:00 by a-d : Give me lilac / lavender any day!.... THAT is where Heaven meets the Earth!.... just like in chartreaux and mint!... ; ) all irridesent, of course... ever looked into the Eternity in/of an abalone shell? ALL the secrets of Mother of Pearl... are beyond our Earthly Socio-political arguing our own MAN-made Every-day shit!.....granted it was certain "men" creating /9read:FORCING upon the rest...) But how long can we remain "Infants" ???? Time to grow up & take charge of our own lives.... and paint those lives in hues of the Mother of Pearl!... lilac... lavender....etc ; ) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Shells_of_marine_Mollusc1.jpg ] 29 Jan 2008 @ 00:06 by a-d : OK, I managed to correct it!.... to remove the giant pic of the shells from the link I gave.... It showed up here first, in HUGE format!... but now, each can just go to the link instead. Much better that way! : ) 29 Jan 2008 @ 06:56 by vaxen : Only... you used the wrong [brackets] which should be either () or {} so I'll try {} first to make the link clickable: {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Shells_of_marine_Mollusc1.jpg} So these ones it is {} made by hitting Shift and typing the brackets[] which with shift become {}. Yahu! Got it monkey girl? In Qabala we have the doctrine of the Klipot which means 'shells.' the 'shells' of disguarded creations...won't get into it here and now. Let's see if the linkage clicks, shall we? 31 Jan 2008 @ 11:26 by E Murray @69.206.171.51 : Madden's Muddle Great response, jazzolog, to Sean Madden's absurd complaint to Amy Goodman. It sure is brilliant to have that headline about right wing ideology causing financial crisis inspire this idea of Democracy Now being about supporting Democrats. What a thinker! For all of Democracy Now's great work they should have this rubbish thrown at them? 31 Jan 2008 @ 21:29 by vaxen : Hmmm... interestingly enough this damned country was founded NOT as a Democracy (A form or style of Government in it's own rite/right.) but as a Republic! Of course the "Democracy," often touted as the American Democracy, referenced is the legislative one in Washington, District of Criminals, otherwise known as the 'UNITED STATES' which is a Corporation! Over the years the traitors have tried to erase the fact that this 'Nation' was founded as a 'Republic!' Know the difference between a Republic and a Democracy? And, sorry, there is NO SUCH THING as a Democratic Republic! Hip, hip! Got your Fasces ready? However, the Res Publica still lives even though the filters are in place thanks to mass media mind control that force the idea of 'democracy (Actually a Fascist Oligarchy)' into peoples mind sets and which the edutainmentedly 'dumbed down (Well "Pavloved") sheeple' are coerced into believing is freedom. Looking at the smirking triumvirate of Bush, Cheney, and what's her name, the other night during the so called Presidents' final "State of the Union" address made me want to...forget it. Which I did by simply turning the damned mind control box off! Freedom? Liberty? The UNITED STATES is, and has been for a very long time, BANKRUPT! Maybe you should look into Ambassador Wantas' story? 25.7 Trillion dollars being misused by the thieves who really are controlling it for speculations sake yet Wanta was given control of it, after all it belongs to the American Sheeple, as a sacred trust for the people. But the Washington Lawyers and Attorneys long ago took over the 'We The People' ruberick and copyrighted it as a Corporation so...guess what America? Democracy? Bullshit! Democracy now? Ha! 4 Feb 2008 @ 11:05 by jazzolog : Soup For Tuesday Yeah, Super Tuesday on the horizon...and the papers are full of analysis especially about the Dems. Frank Rich, Maureen Dowd slapping both candidates around. Krugman leaning toward Clinton's health plan. Ambassador Crocker last Friday promising a good long troop inhabitation of Iraq http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080202/D8UHUQE00.html , which plans seem to interest neither Dem. But along the same lines of importance was Kathleen Hall Jamieson's remarks on Moyers that evening about the SOTU speech. Read this~~~ KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON: The big news of the week was that the President of the United States with substantial power at his disposal, and in a presidency that has asserted an unprecedented level of authority for Commander in Chief suggested that there may be eventually a protective over watch mission. PRESIDENT BUSH: American troops are shifting from leading operations to partnering with Iraqi forces and eventually to a protective over watch mission. KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON: What is a protective over watch mission? And is this President going to commit the nation and try to commit his successors to a more permanent role in Iraq than the Democrats would like? What are the consequences of that? What does it mean? Euphemisms are worrisome. Protective over watch mission doesn't translate well into some clear conception of what we're going to do and what the commitment behind it entails. The second thing that I thought we ought to look at very carefully. "Tehran is also developing ballistic missiles." PRESIDENT BUSH: Tehran is also developing ballistic missiles of increasing range and continues to develop its capacity to enrich uranium which could be used to develop a nuclear weapon. KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON: Important words in the context of the case that was made for intervention in Iraq. Why should we pay attention to these things? Presidential words matter. Presidential power is real. And in times of war, a President's capacity to act is much less constrained than it is in other environments. BILL MOYERS: What's the relevance of this to the people listening? What should they take away from this? KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON: We had two major debates, highly informative debates in which that was not a featured element in the debate. And as a result, we didn't clarify what these people would do in relationship to it, except in the Democratic debate with Hillary Clinton saying that she and Senator Obama would be joining in order to try to move through Congress legislation, a proposal that would say that we're not going to let President Bush bind his successor about a permanent presence or a long term presence in Iraq. And we should ask the same question of the Republicans in the debate. Because perhaps, the Republicans believe it would be desirable to do that. And it's in that context that I would hear Senator McCain's statement about a long-lived presence in Iraq. What is the nature of that presence? The Democrats are being fairly specific about what they see as the length of the commitment, whether desirable or not. And the nature then of the other kinds of activities that they would engage in as President. When would they intervene and go back in? When would they not? http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/02012008/transcript1.html So, the little shit has learned nothing about how Americans feel? He just continues to kill and steal the money? Maybe he thinks he's Robin Hood, robbing the poor to give to the rich. 8 Feb 2008 @ 10:24 by Sean M. Madden @89.240.79.240 : Murray's or Madden's Muddle? In RE: to 31 Jan 2008 @ 11:26 by E Murray: Madden's Muddle Great response, jazzolog, to Sean Madden's absurd complaint to Amy Goodman. It sure is brilliant to have that headline about right wing ideology causing financial crisis inspire this idea of Democracy Now being about supporting Democrats. What a thinker! 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