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8 May 2005 @ 21:58, by swanny

As I hang around the shack today
I hear tales from the media on the spector
of the end of World War II and the 60th year commemoration
of the event.
It makes me wonder if perhaps a kind of insanity takes
hold or took hold in those days.
The media endless overanalysis makes me somewhat disgusted
as they seem to want to squeeze out whatever of whatever.
I look then not at the whys and wherefore but to the reality
and lessons. The fallacy of war that I speak then is the assumption that by the killing of others that something some goal or objective can be
achieved. True we must defend ourselves no problem there but this whole idea that killing actually solves problems is absurd. The problems just takes on another form or dimension then or one then has to deal with the damage and fallout and victums and relatives of that solution.
Hilters "final solution" perhaps is a eptitomy of that kind of erroneous thinking and false profit. Ethnic cleansing and the like point to the error and insanity of thinking killing others actually solves problems or anything.
If anything killing others only esasterbates the situation. It produces no growth no insight no truth no victory even. Indeed it in actuality robs one of the opportunity to really reach some mutual understanding and common ground with others, be they foe or freind. It denys us this even if we are the one left standing denys the ability and opportunity to grow in maturity and wisdom turth and truly understand if though perhaps not fully agree with anothers point of view. Victory in war and such then is a misnomer of sorts. War and such is then perhaps a symptom then of some flaw of person charactor or thinking or ideology
and a means to nothing but the status quo or worse. If we are truly to grow as a worthy inhabitants of this planet we will have to see beyond these so called final solutions into perhaps really sitting down and trying to find more constructive and positive ways of mutual coexistence. Ways like dialogue and deliberation. Ways that do not dimish our virtue and honor and truth and love but enhance it. Yes democracy is a bad system but the best one we have at the moment. Yet even still to impose a good thing, is that a good thing? or does the simple act of imposing bespeak and diminish
the whole principle and means of it.

At any rate as Don Juan said the only clear
fact for us all is that life is altogether to short in this unfathomable universe.


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8 May 2005 @ 22:17 by swanny : Edited Version
"The "Fallacy" of War"
05-08-05, 02:58 pm (PDT)

As I hang around the shack today,
I hear tales from the media on the specter
of the end of World War II and the 60th year commemoration
of the event.
It makes me wonder if perhaps a kind of insanity takes
hold or took hold in those days.
The media's endless over-analysis makes me somewhat disgusted
as they seem to want to squeeze out whatever of whatever.

I look then not at the whys and wherefore but to the reality
and lessons. The fallacy of war that I speak of then is the assumption that by the killing of others that something, some goal or objective can be
achieved. True we must defend ourselves no problem there but this whole idea that killing actually solves problems is absurd. The problems just take on another form or dimension then, or one then has to deal with the damage and fallout and victims and relatives of that solution.

Hitler's "final solution" perhaps is a epitome of that kind of erroneous thinking and false profit. Ethnic cleansing and the like point to the error and insanity of thinking killing others actually solves problems or anything. If anything killing others only exasterbates the situation. It produces no growth, no insight, no truth, no victory even. Indeed it in actuality robs one of the opportunity to really reach some kind of mutual understanding and common ground with others, be they foe or friend. It denys us this even if we are the one left standing, denys the ability and opportunity to grow in maturity and wisdom truth and truly understand if though perhaps not fully agree with anothers point of view.

Victory in war and such then is a misnomer of sorts. War and such is then perhaps a symptom then of some flaw of person, character or thinking or ideology and a means to nothing but the status quo or worse. If we are truly to grow as a worthy inhabitants of this planet we will have to see beyond these so called final solutions into perhaps really sitting down and trying to find more constructive and positive ways of mutual coexistence. Ways like dialogue and deliberation. Ways that do not diminish our virtue and honor and truth and love but enhance it. Yes democracy is a bad system but the best one we have at the moment. Yet even still to impose a good thing, is that a good thing? or does the simple act of imposing bespeak and diminish
the whole principle and means of it.

At any rate as Don Juan said the only clear
fact for us all is that life is altogether to short in this unfathomable universe.

Alfred G. Jonas  

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