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28 Nov 2008 @ 07:39, by Vaxen Var

Native Blood: The Myth of Thanksgiving

Every schoolchild in the U.S. has been taught that the Pilgrims of the Plymouth Colony invited the local Indians to a major harvest feast after surviving their first bitter year in New England. But the real history of Thanksgiving is a story of the murder of indigenous people and the theft of their land by European colonialists--and of the ruthless ways of capitalism.

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In mid-winter 1620 the English ship Mayflower landed on the North American coast, delivering 102 Puritan exiles. The original Native people of this stretch of shoreline had already been killed off. In 1614 a British expedition had landed there. When they left they took 24 Indians as slaves and left smallpox behind. Three years of plague wiped out between 90 and 96 percent of the inhabitants of the coast, destroying most villages completely.

The Puritans landed and built their colony called "the Plymouth Plantation" near the deserted ruins of the Indian village of Pawtuxet. They ate from abandoned cornfields grown wild. Only one Pawtuxet named Squanto had survived--he had spent the last years as a slave to the English and Spanish in Europe. Squanto spoke the colonists' language and taught them how to plant corn and how to catch fish until the first harvest. Squanto also helped the colonists negotiate a peace treaty with the nearby Wampanoag tribe, led by the chief Massasoit.

These were very lucky breaks for the colonists. The first Virginia settlement had been wiped out before they could establish themselves. Thanks to the good will of the Wampanoag, the Puritans not only survived their first year but had an alliance with the Wampanoags that would give them almost two decades of peace.

John Winthrop, a founder of the Massahusetts Bay colony considered this wave of illness and death to be a divine miracle. He wrote to a friend in England, "But for the natives in these parts, God hath so pursued them, as for 300 miles space the greatest part of them are swept away by smallpox which still continues among them. So as God hath thereby cleared our title to this place, those who remain in these parts, being in all not 50, have put themselves under our protection."

The deadly impact of European diseases and the good will of the Wampanoag allowed the Puritans to survive their first year.

In celebration of their good fortune, the colony's governor, William Bradford, declared a three-day feast of thanksgiving after that first harvest of 1621.

How the Puritans Stole the Land

But the peace that produced the Thanksgiving Feast of 1621 meant that the Puritans would have 15 years to establish a firm foothold on the coast. Until 1629 there were no more than 300 Puritans in New England, scattered in small and isolated settlements. But their survival inspired a wave of Puritan invasion that soon established growing Massachusetts towns north of Plymouth: Boston and Salem. For 10 years, boatloads of new settlers came.

And as the number of Europeans increased, they proved not nearly so generous as the Wampanoags.

On arrival, the Puritans discussed "who legally owns all this land." They had to decide this, not just because of Anglo-Saxon traditions, but because their particular way of farming was based on individual--not communal or tribal--ownership. This debate over land ownership reveals that bourgeois "rule of law" does not mean "protect the rights of the masses of people."

Some Puritans argued that the land belonged to the Indians. These forces were excommunicated and expelled. Massachusetts Governor Winthrop declared the Indians had not "subdued" the land, and therefore all uncultivated lands should, according to English Common Law, be considered "public domain." This meant they belonged to the king. In short, the colonists decided they did not need to consult the Indians when they seized new lands, they only had to consult the representative of the crown (meaning the local governor).

The Puritans embraced a line from Psalms 2:8. "Ask of me, and I shall give thee, the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession." Since then, European settler states have similarly declared god their real estate agent: from the Boers seizing South Africa to the Zionists seizing Palestine.

The European immigrants took land and enslaved Indians to help them farm it. By 1637 there were about 2,000 British settlers. They pushed out from the coast and decided to remove the inhabitants.
The Birth of
"The American Way of War"

In the Connecticut Valley, the powerful Pequot tribe had not entered an alliance with the British (as had the Narragansett, the Wampanoag, and the Massachusetts peoples). At first they were far from the centers of colonization. Then, in 1633, the British stole the land where the city of Hartford now sits--land which the Pequot had recently conquered from another tribe. That same year two British slave raiders were killed. The colonists demanded that the Indians who killed the slavers be turned over. The Pequot refused.

The Puritan preachers said, from Romans 13:2, "Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation." The colonial governments gathered an armed force of 240 under the command of John Mason. They were joined by a thousand Narragansett warriors. The historian Francis Jennings writes: "Mason proposed to avoid attacking Pequot warriors which would have overtaxed his unseasoned, unreliable troops. Battle, as such, was not his purpose. Battle is only one of the ways to destroy an enemy's will to fight. Massacre can accomplish the same end with less risk, and Mason had determined that massacre would be his objective."

The colonist army surrounded a fortified Pequot village on the Mystic River. At sunrise, as the inhabitants slept, the Puritan soldiers set the village on fire.

William Bradford, Governor of Plymouth, wrote: "Those that escaped the fire were slain with the sword; some hewed to pieces, others run through with their rapiers, so that they were quickly dispatched and very few escaped. It was conceived they thus destroyed about 400 at this time. It was a fearful sight to see them thus frying in the fire...horrible was the stink and scent thereof, but the victory seemed a sweet sacrifice, and they gave the prayers thereof to God, who had wrought so wonderfully for them."

Mason himself wrote: "It may be demanded...Should not Christians have more mercy and compassion? But...sometimes the Scripture declareth women and children must perish with their parents.... We had sufficient light from the word of God for our proceedings."

Three hundred and fifty years later the Puritan phrase "a shining city on the hill" became a favorite quote of Ronald Reagan's speechwriters.
Discovering the
Profits of Slavery

This so-called "Pequot war" was a one-sided murder and slaving expedition. Over 180 captives were taken. After consulting the bible again, in Leviticus 24:44, the colonial authorities found justification to kill most of the Pequot men and enslave the captured women and their children. Only 500 Pequot remained alive and free. In 1975 the official number of Pequot living in Connecticut was 21.

Some of the war captives were given to the Narragansett and Massachusetts allies of the British. Even before the arrival of Europeans, Native peoples of North America had widely practiced taking war captives from other tribes as hostages and slaves.

The remaining captives were sold to British plantation colonies in the West Indies to be worked to death in a new form of slavery that served the emerging capitalist world market. And with that, the merchants of Boston made a historic discovery: the profits they made from the sale of human beings virtually paid for the cost of seizing them.

One account says that enslaving Indians quickly became a "mania with speculators." These early merchant capitalists of Massachusetts started to make genocide pay for itself. The slave trade, first in captured Indians and soon in kidnapped Africans, quickly became a backbone of New England merchant capitalism.
Thanksgiving in the
Manhattan Colony

In 1641 the Dutch governor Kieft of Manhattan offered the first "scalp bounty"--his government paid money for the scalp of each Indian brought to them. A couple years later, Kieft ordered the massacre of the Wappingers, a friendly tribe. Eighty were killed and their severed heads were kicked like soccer balls down the streets of Manhattan. One captive was castrated, skinned alive and forced to eat his own flesh while the Dutch governor watched and laughed. Then Kieft hired the notorious Underhill who had commanded in the Pequot war to carry out a similar massacre near Stamford, Connecticut. The village was set fire, and 500 Indian residents were put to the sword.

A day of thanksgiving was proclaimed in the churches of Manhattan. As we will see, the European colonists declared Thanksgiving Days to celebrate mass murder more often than they did for harvest and friendship.
The Conquest of New England

By the 1670s there were about 30,000 to 40,000 white inhabitants in the United New England Colonies--6,000 to 8,000 able to bear arms. With the Pequot destroyed, the Massachusetts and Plymouth colonists turned on the Wampanoag, the tribe that had saved them in 1620 and probably joined them for the original Thanksgiving Day.

In 1675 a Christian Wampanoag was killed while spying for the Puritans. The Plymouth authorities arrested and executed three Wampanoag without consulting the tribal chief, King Philip.

As Mao Tsetung says: "Where there is oppression there is resistance." The Wampanoag went to war.

The Indians applied some military lessons they had learned: they waged a guerrilla war which overran isolated European settlements and were often able to inflict casualties on the Puritan soldiers. The colonists again attacked and massacred the main Indian populations.

When this war ended, 600 European men, one-eleventh of the adult men of the New England Colonies, had been killed in battle. Hundreds of homes and 13 settlements had been wiped out. But the colonists won.

In their victory, the settlers launched an all-out genocide against the remaining Native people. The Massachusetts government offered 20 shillings bounty for every Indian scalp, and 40 shillings for every prisoner who could be sold into slavery. Soldiers were allowed to enslave any Indian woman or child under 14 they could capture. The "Praying Indians" who had converted to Christianity and fought on the side of the European troops were accused of shooting into the treetops during battles with "hostiles." They were enslaved or killed. Other "peaceful" Indians of Dartmouth and Dover were invited to negotiate or seek refuge at trading posts--and were sold onto slave ships.

It is not known how many Indians were sold into slavery, but in this campaign, 500 enslaved Indians were shipped from Plymouth alone. Of the 12,000 Indians in the surrounding tribes, probably about half died from battle, massacre and starvation.

After King Philip's War, there were almost no Indians left free in the northern British colonies. A colonist wrote from Manhattan's New York colony: "There is now but few Indians upon the island and those few no ways hurtful. It is to be admired how strangely they have decreased by the hand of God, since the English first settled in these parts."

In Massachusetts, the colonists declared a "day of public thanksgiving" in 1676, saying, "there now scarce remains a name or family of them [the Indians] but are either slain, captivated or fled."

Fifty-five years after the original Thanksgiving Day, the Puritans had destroyed the generous Wampanoag and all other neighboring tribes. The Wampanoag chief King Philip was beheaded. His head was stuck on a pole in Plymouth, where the skull still hung on display 24 years later.

The descendants of these Native peoples are found wherever the Puritan merchant capitalists found markets for slaves: the West Indies, the Azures, Algiers, Spain and England. The grandson of Massasoit, the Pilgrim's original protector, was sold into slavery in Bermuda.
Runaways and Rebels

But even the destruction of Indian tribal life and the enslavement of survivors brought no peace. Indians continued to resist in every available way. Their oppressors lived in terror of a revolt. And they searched for ways to end the resistance. The historian MacLeod writes: "The first `reservations' were designed for the `wild' Irish of Ulster in 1609. And the first Indian reservation agent in America, Gookin of Massachusetts, like many other American immigrants had seen service in Ireland under Cromwell."

The enslaved Indians refused to work and ran away. The Massachusetts government tried to control runaways by marking enslaved Indians: brands were burnt into their skin, and symbols were tattooed into their foreheads and cheeks.

A Massachusetts law of 1695 gave colonists permission to kill Indians at will, declaring it was "lawful for any person, whether English or Indian, that shall find any Indians traveling or skulking in any of the towns or roads (within specified limits), to command them under their guard and examination, or to kill them as they may or can."

The northern colonists enacted more and more laws for controlling the people. A law in Albany forbade any African or Indian slave from driving a cart within the city. Curfews were set up; Africans and Indians were forbidden to have evening get-togethers. On Block Island, Indians were given 10 lashes for being out after nine o'clock. In 1692 Massachusetts made it a serious crime for any white person to marry an African, an Indian or a mulatto. In 1706 they tried to stop the importation of Indian slaves from other colonies, fearing a slave revolt.
Celebrate?

Looking at this history raises a question: Why should anyone celebrate the survival of the earliest Puritans with a Thanksgiving Day? Certainly the Native peoples of those times had no reason to celebrate.

A little known fact: Squanto, the so-called "hero" of the original Thanksgiving Day, was executed by the Indians for his treacheries.

But the ruling powers of the United States organized people to celebrate Thanksgiving Day because it is in their interest. That's why they created it. The first national celebration of Thanksgiving was called for by George Washington. And the celebration was made a regular legal holiday later by Abraham Lincoln during the civil war (right as he sent troops to suppress the Sioux of Minnesota).

Washington and Lincoln were two presidents deeply involved in trying to forge a unified bourgeois nation-state out of the European settlers in the United States. And the Thanksgiving story was a useful myth in their efforts at U.S. nation-building. It celebrates the "bounty of the American way of life," while covering up the brutal nature of this society.

Revolutionary Worker #883, November 24, 1996
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28 Nov 2008 @ 10:23 by mortimer : exactly what I needed!
Well however your sonar zeros in these articles I wonder but that was worth hunting down. Just wanted to let you know you're appreciated for your generosity and dynamic drive in support of truth and freedom.  

28 Nov 2008 @ 21:25 by mortimer : habitual nose-bleeders
They don’t tell this side of the story in public schools. I posted this article in the tiospaye (extended family) forum for the kids. Freedom loving people don’t need or want more ideology! Freedom lovers everywhere need and demand the truth! But...Today the wasichu (fat takers) complain of rubbing noses in the facts---the wasichu have always whined and complained about accommodations and today they whine because the internet does not accommodate them. But the facts remain. The only resolve is bitter sweet and that’s the truth. It’s no longer about race, and it’s no longer just historical facts. Instead it’s about the middle class down. They perfected genocide on the indigenous people and now the middle class people are next. The nose bleeders don’t even know they are still asleep, they don’t know their families are next.  

29 Nov 2008 @ 16:58 by vaxen : Classless...
It is nice for me to contemplate what a classless society must be like where everybody had the equal opportunity of reaching old age in a mellow state. However I must dispense with niceties for the moment and view that iron clad monster rushing madley down the tracks towards our small estate. I think, with a bit of luck, a few of us might get together and with an iron bar, or two, derail that monster into oblivions dream factory.  

29 Nov 2008 @ 18:01 by vaxen : Foreigners in Bombay Attack...
At NCN no one seems to be able to make the necessary tie ins with which to understand incidents such as the recent "terrorist" attacks in Bombay. Fist to get the blame is the non existant "Al Qaeda." Whenever the 'western press' makes such immediate claims you can be sure that it is not 'that!' There are many forces at play but who really stands to benefit? Take a look at Pakistan strategically. Read Brzezinsky. The following article might begin to shed some light on just what forces are at bey:

"Other "men walked into the cafe, drank beer, settled their bills and walked out. Then they fished out guns from their bags and began firing." Muslims do not drink alcohol, that is unless they are Muslims like Marwan Al-Shehhi and Mohamed Atta, who reportedly not only liked to drink but enjoyed lap dances by topless dancers as well before they supposedly hijacked planes and flew them into buildings."
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"The presence of "foreign looking, fair skinned" commandos who calmly gunned down dozens of people after drinking a few beers indicates that the Mumbai attacks were likely the work of the Anglo-American covert intelligence operatives, not indigenous Indian Muslims or for that matter Arab al-Qaeda terrorists. The attacks prepare the ground for the break-up of Pakistan and the furtherance of destabilizing terrorism in the Middle East and Asia. The Mumbai attacks had little to do with India or the relationship between Muslim Pakistanis and Hindu Indians."

http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-2420-0-5-5--.html

And you might ask what this all has to do with thanksgiving? The modus operandi of the BEIC (British East India Trading Company) is well known - as are their aims. You might think that they no longer exist but all you need to do is begin to research honestly, and read between the lines. MI6 (SIS), RAW, ISI, CIA, MOSSAD a veritable 'stew' of intelligence all used by the council of 300 in furtherance of their 'aims.' Think they don't exist? Make the connection with BEIC and you'll soon see their fingerprints everywhere. To conspire means to breath together. ;)

Divide and Conquer: The Anglo-American Imperial Project

Establishing an "Arc of Crisis"

Many would be skeptical that the Anglo-Americans would be behind terrorist acts in Iraq, such as with the British in Basra, when two British SAS soldiers were caught dressed as Arabs, with explosives and massive arsenal of weapons.[1] Why would the British be complicit in orchestrating terror in the very city in which they are to provide security? What would be the purpose behind this? That question leads us to an even more important question to ask, the question of why Iraq was occupied; what is the purpose of the war on Iraq? If the answer is, as we are often told with our daily dose of CNN, SkyNews and the statements of public officials, to spread democracy and freedom and rid the world of tyranny and terror, then it doesn’t make sense that the British or Americans would orchestrate terror.

However, if the answer to the question of why the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq occurred was not to spread democracy and freedom, but to spread fear and chaos, plunge the country into civil war, balkanize Iraq into several countries, and create an "arc of crisis" across the Middle East, enveloping neighboring countries, notably Iran, then terror is a very efficient and effective means to an end.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9451

It is no mistake, as well, that Barack Obama http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0132206420070801 has called for action against Pakistan. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Obama said last August.  

29 Nov 2008 @ 19:14 by a-d : I heard somewhere
that "Al Quaeda" means s---. Is that correct? ( ...and that would explain lot, wouldn't it?)  

29 Nov 2008 @ 19:33 by ashanti : Mumbai attacks
Yep, first I heard about them, I thought, oh, here we go again. I never for a minute thought this was anything other than another CIA/Mossad black operation, to make Pakistan look bad, and to make headway with getting Asia up to speed with buying into the anti-terror security legislation, which takes away all freedoms, and is an essential pre-requisite for the implementation of the New World Order. This is going to be used to bring many of the "developing countries" into line as well.

Oh - PS - yes, I have always been gob-smacked at the Thanksgiving thing - neatly placed on top of a genocide of indigenous people, and people do NOT want to hear about that.....  

29 Nov 2008 @ 22:29 by a-d : Ooohhh, I love it, Vax!
" that iron clad monster rushing madley down the tracks...." /// heheheh... funny, In Sweden/Swedish we have a saying about people who are unable to switch from one "thought-package" to another, so to speak, that they are dumber than the train ("du är-"e" dummare än tåget" )
Ashanti, bullies always HATE to have their own behavior & actions spelled out in words --by Someone else!...usually someone, who somehow was/became victim of these atrocities!...and that's "when"/"where" all the 'Hate Laws' are launched; to keep -especially- those people from speaking out!
http://www.rense.com/general84/d2so.htm  

29 Nov 2008 @ 22:49 by vaxen : rusyn...
Gently: You do NOT know what you are talking about. Pure and simple. Anything that would even hint at a possible involvement of your mainstay icons in anything that smacks of 'terrorism' would be deleted immediately from your very narrow, and totally uniformed, mind. You are to be pitied but fortunately there are many who do know the truth and also know just how these agencies operate as well as their future plans!

No one is blaming Jews! You can't blame something that doesn't exist. Pakistan is a very crucial dynamic in the chess game. Wake up. Or don't. The earmarks of false flag ops, especially SIS, ISI, CIA, MOSSAD, false flag ops, are very well known in the IC. Get a grip!

Thanks Ashanti. Have been wondering what was going on 'over there,' with you, as things are definitely heating up...

Oh, Toben was released and that is a small victory against the Fascists of all ilks, colors, persuasions! Onwards, then, we'll fight till the New World Order serpents are all dead!
http://www.voxfux.com/archives/00000082.htm


Jean Baudrillard has trance ended his Matrixed state:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/07/books/07baudrillard.html

And as the number of Europeans increased, they proved not nearly so generous as the Wampanoags.  

30 Nov 2008 @ 04:49 by vaxen : Galois
I'm not crying wolf, I'm screaming: "SKULLDUGGERY!" The 'source' is multiple. And sources have been known to lie for profit. I quit the Foundation for one reason alone: They suck at what they do! I don't. And I wasn't about to die because of their jaded opinions of how the world should be and how an Operator should operate! The real core is that the PTB want Eurasia and are preparing for the final assault.

The attack goes back to, not Kashmir, but the real core of all these attacks and that core is invisible and those who know it know it and will deal with it in proper terms when the time is right.

Watch the CIA owned Mass Media do it's spin job. Best to save all the early commentaries as the spin will definitely put a new 'shine' on it after it has all been 'sheep dipped' to hell.

I respect your opinions but don't for a moment think that I rely on Rense for much of anything at all. I have contacts that go way beyond disinformation operators who are in it for the glee club whis-key.

Though I think Jeff is sincere...and I do appreciate what he does. An analyst takes everything, and I do mean everything, into account as far as any 'case' is concerned. The slightest little seeming non entitical detail can open up reams upon reams of canned saurkraut.

Vas Ist Verbotten, Herren?

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Obama Is An Intel Spook
11-29-8

This accurate comment appears on the Amazon review page of Webster Tarpley's 'Barrack H. Obama - The Unauthorized Biography' --

Obama is a spook. I don't mean that in the racist sense of the word.

Obama's mother was a CIA officer.

Obama was one of 8 students selected to study sovietology in Columbia's IR program under Brzezinski, one of the CIA's top- ranking officers.

Obama went to work for a CIA front, Business International Corporation (one of whose specialties was recruiting leaders of domestic left-wing organizations as CIA assets).

Obama ran for state office and his opponent quit the race before the election.

Obama ran for US Senate, and his opponent quit the race before the election.

Obama ran for Pres., and his foreign policy chief was, who else, one of the CIA's top officers, Brzezinski.

I use the same simple technique that the security forces use to identify intelligence agents and prevent infiltration: I do a background check.

I'm not saying Obama is good or bad. I'm just pointing out that he is a spook.

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Barack-H-Obama-Unauthorized-Biography

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30 Nov 2008 @ 06:00 by ashanti : Source/Intuition
No, my observations are based on my own intuition, and what I know. I most definitely was not blaming "Jews". There ARE Muslim Jihad extremists, no doubt, and they are suicidally insane. The fact that there are such lunatics and fanatics abroad make it so easy for those who manipulate history to implement their agenda using these "kids" as a cover. There is a lot that is very strange about these baby-faced killers in Mumbai. As Vax says, lets see what happens. I know that massive "anti-terror" legislation will be pushed through. The funny thing is, this legislation does not actually stop terror - anymore than the AirPort measures do - the terrorists and criminals slip through anyway, it is only the honest, basically decent citizens that get harrased, bullied, abused, strip-searched, and so on. I am currently compiling a list of ordinary people who have been brutalized by Nazi-style thugs at airports. Yet strangely, despite all these measures, the "terrorists" still get through, still get to do their ops. It is such a crock, I am simply gob-smacked that so few notice what is really going on. But then I guess, most people don't get out much, leave their home towns, or countries and travel the world. They rely on the media.

I think this too, is the reason why the Nazi crackdown at airports. People who travel the world get to see things for themselves, first-hand, and are able to then distinguish the reality they saw, with the crock of lies that pour through the mainstream media. They definitely want to stop the Animals from seeing.

Soon, Americans will have to get permission from homeland security if they want to go out of town, travel to another US state, and get permission to travel abroad. International travel is already being discouraged, ref the Aiport nazi thugs, but more is coming, as lock-down mode is approaching.  

1 Dec 2008 @ 02:12 by vaxen : Ha, ha...
And, of course, you believve it. Welcome to the spin. We KNOW different.  

1 Dec 2008 @ 02:35 by ursula : Yes
because you live in an alternate universe (the dark shadow) that operates under denial and fear. You MUST believe in the conspiracy theory or you'd cease to function hahahaha. Last night some friends got together with me and we had a huge laugh over your "theories".  

1 Dec 2008 @ 06:29 by vaxen : Unfortunately...
they are 'NOT' my theories. You've really never read Brzezinsky at all, have you? And you are not that well trained in 'factor analysis,' are you? And I live in an alternate universe, eh? The 'dark shadow?' Know what Jung says about that archetype?

There are no "conspiracy theories" only actual "conspiracies" going on here. But of course you've never studied America's 'Conspiracy' laws, right? Of course not. What would you call RICO? ;) Unh, hunh. Con-Spiratus (With breath.' ;) Allusion being to two or more gathered together breathing the same air. At least you are laughing as people in other parts of the world are slaughtered by inane politics and grabs for illusory 'world power.' I am sourced beyond MEST so my interest is purely disinterested 'truth.' Unvarnished, pure and simple. Incidentally denial and fear are tools of 'your' government and have nothing to do with my ME at all. The following 'indicators' are just a few points of light lifted out of tons of Media wrangling. The essentials can be found in Mr Brzezinsky's works. But he has only culled his view from countless others who know, and are part of, The Great Game. Surely you've heard of that?

Whose Who Of The Hindutva Army

"A Hindu umbrella group, 'Sangh Parivar' (SP) is built around an extremist Hindu party, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). Its members includes parties like the RSS, Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), and Bajrang Dal (BD, also known as the Monkey Brigade).

"Bal Thackeray, an admirer of Adolf Hitler and Nazism, is the founder of an extremist Hindu party 'Shiv Sena' (SS, meaning Army of Shiva). Only his hate for Muslims surpasses his love for Hitler. In 1984, in an interview with the 'India Today', he said, "[Muslims] were spreading like a cancer and should be operated on like a cancer. The...country should be saved from the Muslims and the police should support them". According to the Asia Times, Thackeray called on the Hindus to form suicide squads "to take the Muslims head on. Trouble-making Muslims should be wiped out from the country... kick out the [40 million] Bangladeshi Muslims and then the country will be secure". In a deposition before the Srikrishna Commission, Yuvraj Mohite said, Thackeray coordinated much of the January 1993 Mumbai carnage. He claimed, "Balasaheb was sitting and he was getting calls from various places. He would ask what was happening at that particular place… and then he would say, 'Kill them. Send them to Allah'"."

http://www.daily.pk/world/asia/8398--whose-who-of-the-hindutva-army.html

"A handful of gunmen held out for almost three days, taking hundreds of people hostage, many of them Westerners. Twenty-two of those killed were foreigners. Last night emergency services raised the prospect that many - including three Britons - were still missing from the Taj.

"The gunmen set the 105-year-old hotel ablaze as they evaded scores of India's best-trained commandos. They left bodies with grenades stuffed into their mouths.

"The photograph of a baby-faced militant, whom newspaper reports claim is Kasab, wearing combat trousers and swinging an AK47 in Mumbai's main railway station, is the defining image of the rampage. His victims are said to include Mumbai's anti-terror squad chief Hemant Karkare, whose body was cremated yesterday."

"Under questioning, Kasab is said to have admitted to being a resident of Faridkot in Pakistan's Punjab province. 'I was trained by Lashkar-e-Taiba and asked to cause maximum casualties in Mumbai,' he is alleged to have said, referring to an organisation which India says is sending armed militants into Kashmir. Kasab was arrested on Wednesday night after his partner, said to be Ismail Khan, was shot dead.

"The duo's night began when they fired on commuters in the railway station and in two hospitals. Kasab told police that they had learned about Mumbai's geography using Google Earth.

"According to Indian media reports, the captured militant said that a room booked in the Taj had been used to store explosives and ammunition ahead of the attacks. This might explain how the squads of gunmen were able to reload their weapons over more than 50 hours and appeared to have an inexhaustible supply of grenades."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/30/mumbai-terror-attacks-india3

*Note: Note the many 'points of interest' such as: "His victims are said to include Mumbai's anti-terror squad chief Hemant Karkare..." and "I was trained by Lashkar-e-Taiba and asked to cause maximum casualties in Mumbai," he is alleged..., *Note the word "alleged." And, since he is the only one to have survived? ;) Right...

And:

"MOSSAD ACTIVITY IN INDIA

"ISRAELI COUNTER-TERRORISM ASSISTANCE has mobilized since 2000 in the Jammu and Kashmir areas of India, where the Indian government has been pursuing a 'security' issue with regard to the Kashmiri people. In 2000, The Times Of India reported on the Israeli presence in India:

"Israeli counter-terrorism experts are now touring Jammu and Kashmir and several other states in India at the invitation of Home Minister Lal Krishna Advani to make an assessment of New Delhi's security needs.

"The Israeli team, headed by Eli Katzir of the Israel Counter-Terrorism Combat Unit, includes Israeli military intelligence officials and a senior police official." View Entire Story Here.

"The Israelis were asked to determine the areas in which Israel could offer assistance to help reduce the incidence of terrorist incursions into Jammu and Kashmir from Pakistan. It was agreed that Israeli assistance would include "information transfers, instruction in operational methods, and the sale of equipment."

"Home Minister Advani already visited Israel in June 2000 and advocated for "closer India-Israeli cooperation on all security matters." Much of his time in Israel was spent learning about counter-terrorism techniques from the heads of the Mossad."

Tell me, now, how this band of "terrorists" gained access to one whole room and stored enough ammunitions, including grenades and other sophisticated explosives, to with stand for so many days the elite commandoes of the Indian Security Forces trained so very well by Israel's Mossad?

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"Factor analysis - Means, Method and Motivation: Powerful western media organisations reinforce their opinions with repetition, linking assaults like these with former "Islamist attacks" and another "terrorist attack". Their logic and factor analysis use (1) the weapons used, (2) the similarity of past attacks by "Al Queda" and (3) motivation. But of course they never consider the possibility, based on this same factor analysis, that the architects may be the CIA and/or Mossad.

"Means: That the most powerful military machine in the world has the means to arm groups like the one who is carrying out the Mumbai attacks requires no apology or defense.

"Method: History is replete with examples of U.S./Israeli use of a surrogate to attack their enemies. William John Fox pointed this out in his exemplary analysis, Deliver Us From Chaos: Ten Political Commandments. In 1953 they used domestic terrorism to overthrow Mohammad Mosaddeq, former Prime Minister of Iran. They used the Afghan Mujahideen to attack Russia in the same year of their resistance. The CIA and the U.S. ambassador secretly engineered the "Rose Revolution" in Georgia in 2003 and "the U.S. encouraged the Israeli-trained Georgian army to invade the disputed enclave of South Ossetia five years later".

"Motivation: The only difference between the factors used by the capitalist media and ours is motivation. Regarding motivation, CNN states "they (Deccan Mujahideen) want to create as much damage and attention to themselves as possible". CIA/Mossad are masters at destruction, but the last thing they want is bringing attention to themselves. Motivation for the U.S. to take it's war to Pakistan fits perfectly with these attacks. As a matter of fact, Barack Obama and Joe Biden already declared their intention to take the war to Pakistan and stated with certainty that Obama's "mettle would be tested" by a major international "incident" in the near future. If the perpetrators want to draw attention to themselves, their method (i.e. killing civilians), simply does not make sense unless one buys the Bush regime's religion-based simplism that they are simply "evil". Militant's fighting for causes such as independence or national sovereignty want least of all, international negative attention or popular hatred. The only thing missing from the corporate media explanation is George W. Bush's idiotic claim that "the terrorists are jealous of our freedoms". Using this the corporate media's methodology, it is entirely reasonable and just as easy to implicate the CIA and Mossad."

http://www.daily.pk/world/asia/8385-the-international-backers-of-the-mumbai-attacks.html
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"Associated Press described the attackers,

"Teams of heavily armed gunmen stormed luxury hotels, a popular restaurant and a crowded train station in coordinated attacks across India's financial capital Wednesday night, killing at least 78 people and taking Westerners hostage, police said. A group of suspected Muslim militants claimed responsibility."

"Reuters describes them, "The previously unknown or little known group sent an email to news organisations claiming responsibility." This is a familiar attribution to "terrorist attacks" which, because the organisation is "unknown", noone can prove otherwise. CNN TV states emphatically, "This is definitely an international attack using domestic terrorists". We have no doubt that the latter statement is true but the question is, "Who are those international backers of these attacks?""

Know who owns CNN?

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Terrorism

We must also remember where the very term, "terrorism" was born in 1947 and who carried it out? - Israel. The term has been internationalised and popularised since then by the corporate media, rarely if ever pointing to its origins. Today, "terrorism" has become a household term, associated solely with Muslims throughout the world and it was developed into a basis for a war without end. The military assault on Mumbai is another a mini-9/11 in the sense that it provides a platform for juicing and expanding the "anti-terror" war under a new Obama administration which will no doubt be backed by other western governments.

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Mumbai terror attacks: India fury at Pakistan as bloody siege is crushed
• Lone surviving militant 'reveals terror group links'
• Death toll at 200 as hotel cleared

Note this:

"According to the reports, which could not be independently verified, Kasab said that the operation was the responsibility of Lashkar-e-Taiba, a jihadist group based in Pakistan, and its aim was to 'kill as many as possible' in what was intended to be India's 9/11. The claims were made as Indian special forces ended the violent sieges around Mumbai with the killing of the final three terrorists holding out in the Taj Mahal Palace hotel - where British survivors had walked through rooms strewn with bodies and 'blood and guts' as they were led to safety."

My how very convenient. Sole surviving "terrorist" 'spills the beans!' Sure, sure...

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"Analysts said that the omens did not look good for the peace process between India and Pakistan. 'I expect a very difficult time ahead,' said Tariq Fatemi, a former Pakistani ambassador to Washington. 'Anything short of a real and genuine effort to co-operate by Pakistan would send very, very bad signals - not just to India but to the US and to Europe too.'"

ibid., above

Sho nuff? ;)

I realise that you, rusyn, will probably not have the focused intent necessary to go through the above with the diligence due the arising picture but maybe others will so the above is not directed at you, per se. How many years did you say you spent analysing intelligence?

PS: You may want to apply the 'Fibonacci Quantal Analysis,' or 'Combinatorial Analysis,' method to all the above. You might not...

Does dark matter at larger space-time sheets define super-quantal phase?

The lift of 2-dimensional conformal invariance to the space-time level and field particle duality as the mother of almost all dualities (Love/Hate, Black/White, Yin/Yang, Dark/Light, Good/Evil... You get the picture? Good. :))

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1 Dec 2008 @ 06:52 by mortimer : hmmm
look at the time stamps, 8 minutes apart.

and now without reading your post she resorts ad homonym.

I digress  

1 Dec 2008 @ 07:20 by vaxen : Mortimer...
Amazing, eh? ;) Feynman would have a hayday. Canonical correspondence between p-adic and real numbers... ;) Quantum Hall effect from topological field quantization. Thanks, bro. There's that mysterious '8' again! Heh, heh... subquantal murametics.

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