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The Sandorian Grove: What's in between the poles?? |
Category: Articles 5 comments 25 Sep 2004 @ 02:08 by The above mentioned Ed in LA @68.136.84.176 : what's between the poles of an oduAn odu only has poles if one pries it apart, at which point it is no longer a functioning odu! Basically an odu is two things welded together. The things which are welded together are the prime qualities which make and shape both the physical universe and also Beings. These prime qualities are things like "solidity" or "location" or "affinity" or "survival", real basic stuff like that. On a Being, an odu is sometimes called an "actual goal" or "actual GPM goal". So a sample "actual goal" using the primes I mentioned above might be "to solidify affinity" (odi-otura in Ifa terms). What happened is that I was curious about exactly HOW two prime qualities get welded together. So I went away, into my somewhere which is nowhere, where I "meditate" so to speak. In this noplace I can see anything I want to see. And see exactly how it is put together. So I did, and what I saw about odu is that it is formed by placing nothingness (oyeku in Ifa) between the two primes. Nothingness is the end result of perfect duplication (as-isness). Stated the other direction, perfect duplication results in vanishment (this is the correct sequence to produce good results in a mind). What is vanished in this case is any DIFFERENCE between the two prime qualities, this makes them become ONE (this is running the other direction, from nothingness toward differences). And if they are two different qualities, this produces a persisting lie, one which has the capability to hang around for trillions of years. The exact sequence of odu placement seems to be: 1) place the first prime quality, 2) place the second immediately, with oyeku as the "flux" allowing them to weld together. Because the first came prior, it will have a slight "seniority" to the second, and tend to act on it as the two become one. The first acts as a DOINGNESS, the second as a HAVINGNESS. Traditional sources call these male and female respectively. Because odu are created by an action which is the reverse of what is good for a Being, odu are potentially dangerous to Beings. They have the capability to seriously collapse a person, as was discovered to their dismay by certain researchers at a place called Saint Hill back in the early 1960s. Anyone "messing around" with odu need protection, and the only protection of which I know for the average, or even above average, person is initiation into Ifa as an Ifa priest. I finally know WHY they are so dangerous. It is simply that they are formed "widdershins" as it were, from oyeku to ofun, which is the reverse of the direction which is good for Beings. cheers Ed Dawson, somewhere in Los Angeles 19 Oct 2004 @ 04:38 by celio @217.234.59.6 : ed comments from 25 sep 2004 >together. Because the first came prior, it will have a slight "seniority" to >the second, and tend to act on it as the two become one. The first acts as a >DOINGNESS, the second as a HAVINGNESS. Traditional sources call these male and >female respectively. It is not clear for me, what your explanation has to do with the traditional source (male and female aspects of an odu). Perhaps some explantions about of significance of olodu, obalodu and omolodu would help to understand your viewpoint. >Anyone "messing around" with odu need protection, and the only protection of >which I know for the average, or even above average, person is initiation into >Ifa as an Ifa priest I do not agree that only an initiation as IFA Priest, can be assumed as the only way to protect a person "meessing around". As far in my limited knowledge and practical experience on such issues, still as IFA priest, a person need to take more care about ODU protection, due as IFA Priest you are also exposed to the effects of ODU casted for the clients during divination . It is worth to notice that in the traditional IFA tradition, the priest know what ebbos must be done for himself, in accordance what odus have been casted on the tray (opon -fa), in order to protect him of the effect of the odus casted. >Finally know WHY they are so dangerous. It is simply that they are >normed "widdershins" as it were, from oyeku to ofun, which is the reverse of >The direction which is good for Beingst I agree, IFA is fun as long the things are working properly...but in the reverse direction IFA kills (as well said in the lukumi tradition) 19 Oct 2004 @ 21:04 by max @82.122.122.57 : comment to comment I'd liketo add that I determine the ebo(s) for myself after the divination, not by standard application of a recipe. 22 Apr 2016 @ 14:44 by TEN0422 @107.149.118.2 : 513169141 TEN 0422 coach outlet store michael kors uk coach outlet store coach outlet michael kors outlet louis vuitton handbags outlet coach outlet store coach outlet online nike air huarache cheap ray ban sunglasses cheap jordan shoes ralph lauren,polo ralph lauren,ralph lauren outlet,ralph lauren italia,ralph lauren sito ufficiale burberry sunglasses gucci outlet longchamp outlet ferragamo shoes coach outlet store fitflops sale clearance louis vuitton bags gucci sunglasses cheap mlb jerseys swarovski outlet mulberry sale fitflops outlet sale ralph lauren outlet police sunglasses toms outlet store air max 90 true religion jeans michael kors outlet online swarovski crystal ray-ban sunglasses discount michael kors handbags longchamp outlet jordan shoes oakley sunglasses wholesale coach outlet online fitflops sale clearance fitflops shoes hollister uk true religion jeans outlet ray ban sunglasses fitflops sale clearance ralph lauren polo michael kors handbags outlet nike roshe run chrome hearts outlet oakley sunglasses ralph lauren uk burberry outlet sale 22 Apr 2016 @ 14:46 by TEN0422 @107.149.118.2 : 513169141 TEN 0422 michael kors outlet ghd hair straighteners cheap michael kors handbags michael kors outlet online michael kors online outlet ralph lauren outlet hermes belt polo ralph lauren oakley sunglasses rolex uk louis vuitton outlet stores prada shoes oakley sunglasses gucci sunglasses ralph lauren uk tiffany and co michael kors outlet michael kors uk outlet polo ralph lauren mulberry outlet,mulberry handbags outlet ferragamo shoes michael kors outlet michael kors outlet polo ralph lauren michael kors factory outlet true religion outlet timberland boots tory burch shoes tory burch outlet online michael kors outlet cheap nfl jersey lebron shoes rolex watches for sale nike air force 1 true religion outlet michael kors uk lacoste polo shirts coach outlet online christian louboutin outlet tiffany outlet cheap soccer jerseys true religion outlet oakley sunglasses ralph lauren polo michael kors handbags michael kors clearance ralph lauren outlet cheap mlb jerseys longchamp pliage nhl jerseys Other articles in Articles 23 Sep 2016 @ 17:18: A summary of the summaries of Max Sandor's projects 23 Sep 2016 @ 17:04: Project Summary 6. 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