|The Sandorian Grove: Notes for a recent speech|
9 comments29 Jun 2008 @ 20:11 by Merlin Silk @18.104.22.168 : anarchy
That's a very interesting speech! There is one statement that I don't understand, though: "Certainly I do not advocate anarchy."
Why not - is this only to comfort the powers to be, or do you really mean it? As I understand, a person who own him or herself, and claims to do so, can only be an anarchist. Any power given away to somebody, especially a power one does not have to begin with (like telling your neighbor that he can not smoke pot), creates an ownership of transferor by the recipient - the owner can do with his property whatever he pleases, like throwing that pot-head into jail.
What comes to mind is the movie Zeitgeist, which I finally finished just yesterday. It was very depressing for most of the time, it all seemed so hopeless with all the movers and shakers gaining more and more control. But this was resolved in the last few minutes where the message was conveyed that we can just blow the whole thing apart. But for this to happen we have to take back our ownership of ourselves. We might loose a body or two (see John Lennon, who tried to tell people about their own power), but, as good old Hubbard defines the basic right or a thetan to leave the game, this really needs to be considered inconsequential. A very nice take in this idea is impressively rendered in the movie "Brazil" - maybe this is why you are down there now...
29 Jun 2008 @ 20:21 by vaxen : Yes...
Very nice Mx. However one needs but Postulate a future and get down right 4th Dynamic about it for the world 'as it seems' to change right before ones' eyes!
Love your thought... how'd it go, BTW?
Your awareness right now is beginning to take back control of your life which has been stolen from you.
Is your mind in love or attached to any physical object? If so, you have been conditioned. Are desires, cravings, attitudes or opinions clouding your attention? If so, your senses are playing on the desires and cravings created by others. You are being moved about like an emotional rag doll. Now think how long it took you to lose control of yourself. It started with your parents and your grandparents.
It was a slow methodical process of programming you out of your own true identity.
Modify, impair or change the human brain and you reduce, increase, or modify the mind's ability to function autonomously. Your mind needs you to take charge of your desires and cravings. To do this you have to attach your mind to the greatest thought that exists. The thought of your own unique identity, inner peace and freedom.
Chaotes unite! The only thing you have to lose is ... your order! - A silly little para-phrase. ;)
29 Jun 2008 @ 20:30 by vaxen : PS:
CIA Officer: Israel Conducts Covert Action in America
antiwar.com — For years – even decades – U.S. citizens have been the subject of a political action campaign designed and executed by Israel. So far, Israel's covert political action is succeeding hands down. Americans are gradually being indoctrinated to believe Islamists are today's Nazis and that there is no "Israeli lobby" in America.
Of course CBR wrote a paper rather on this way back in 84. GOETE1.txt I was reading it last night and therein he describes today to a tee. Very interesting to go back in time like that. How much can could a Toucan can if a Toucan could can can?
29 Jun 2008 @ 20:54 by mx @22.214.171.124 : anarchy is the other extreme..
neither anarchy nor a totalitarian system can survive... one extreme collapses into its opposite side.. Nordenholz, in 'Scientologie' 1934 elaborated this very clearly in the triad relationship (for the maximal freedom of an individual).
Another point to see that all these considerations apply for ALL levels of social interactions. Zeitgeist, Endgame, and the like only show the BIG game on the global level. Parallel to this are running innumerous games on the various local layers. A comprehensive strategy must propose a solution that applies for ALL spheres of society.
The movie 'Brazil' shows the 'Endgame' scenario. It has nothing to do with the country except of the recurring melody in the soundtrack. The title was selected to take off a bit of the heaviness of the subject, making it possible to sell it as a comedy of some sorts...
30 Jun 2008 @ 03:52 by solomoreno : The tyranny of the majority...
Sounds like it was a great speech Max! I wish I was there to hear it.
To prevent one group of people from having the power to work torts on another group of people (which lays the groundwork for the establishment of extremism in government), one would need to create a true Republic. A system where unity is achieved through self-determism, not the other way around. It would have to be a form of government created with inherent mechanisms like a (supposedly) unavoidably-weak federal government, different branches of power, trial by jury, jury nullification and other mechanisms that act together as a multi-layered checkpoint to prevent the majority from oppressing the minority. Yes, one would need a Republic...NOT A DEMOCRACY!!! Wait, hold on, it appears as if history may have actually seen one of these, complete with a generating document highlighting all of these mechanisms (and even saying, just in case they missed anything, that there must be a "Republican Form of Goverment"). Omg, what happened!!! I'll just say that I wish the South would have won.
We need a Republic, outside and inside of ourselves. Only a Republic allows for the Middle Path. It is Unity in Diversity. A Republic requires communication (be it between one's body and spirit, or between porn-lovers and the religious right) rather than violent power-grabs that suppress freedom and the opportunity for growth and harmony.
30 Jun 2008 @ 05:25 by vaxen : Yah...
Nordenholz was a bit of an Hegelian at that but he was cool. Wish I could have been there, too. Alas...
Nicely said Solomoreno. You might like to check into the Organic Act of 1871 also called 'The Washington D.C. Organic Act of 1871.'
The decline of the Republic (Res Publica) began right around the beginning of it... Remember the Hamiltonians? Alexander Hamilton and his crowd of Banksters. ;)
Here's a reather astute 'timeline' that may be of iinterest to some:
also the extropian or transhumanist doctrine is on the order of what mx suggests as all consuming...
Tranhumanisms' Extropy Institute Http://www.extropy.org/ - it's links with all the big intel players, of course, remain occluded but are there nontheless. After all Scientology as well as the Jehovahs Witnesses are both political intelligence apparatuses... note how they penetrated Russia as an example.
30 Jun 2008 @ 21:44 by Andreas @126.96.36.199 : Lika rädd som du
* A viral clearing tech/meme programmed to make people sane. As the person becomes sufficiently aware he can remove it himself.
* Free, easily reproducable food and energy. Maybe edible ezgrow algae? Solar power with new storage technology?
But do people want it?
The world and its political/economic systems appear to be the product of what its people want; sane people create sane systems.
Do they need it?
The problems seem to change as I change. I don't see much further than my nose unfortunately.
30 Jun 2008 @ 21:53 by vaxen : Hahahaha...
Heya Andreas. Maybe that's a good thing? Till the brownshirts come and take you to the neo-zionist version of Aushvitz, Treblinka, Daschau...
In the wisdom of the elite planners, America was put on trial without our knowledge. The verdict was given, that America must be conditioned to “embrace post-industrialism,” in a new political reality that is described as “friendly fascism.” We cannot accept that verdict. The hour of our summary execution in nearly upon us. Will we accept this unjust decision, or will we fight back against our programming and unseat those who have usurped the Constitution and driven us to World War III against our will?
The second most-important component of brainwashing is children’s tv and video games (Followed closely by the behavioral conditioning dispensed by the educational system.) Anyone who wants to save their kids should seriously consider unplugging their “one-eyed babysitters.”
The pulsating waves of techno-programming radiate outward from American assets, working best when they have a powerful operational field (like here at ground zero), where they can draw capacitance to generate an overwhelming pulse. If America fully submits to the psycho/sensual assault, surrendering our God-given right to resist, then the power of those who lead us is magnified before the world’s eyes, thus reinforcing the sense of inevitability and discouraging any further puny resistance.
1 Jul 2008 @ 10:27 by Dario @188.8.131.52 : people and people
a normal person, integrated in a mass system loose him/her power of choice.
so in general (in my observation 99,99% of human cases :-) ) it is not what people think needed or wanted, but what something (media and mass control) has choosen for them.
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