en https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v472/ An NCN News Log http://www.newciv.org/pic/ncnicon2-s.gif https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v472/ 88 31 webmaster@newciv.org OrgSpace NewsLog 1.87 Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:01:01 UT Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:01:01 UT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 180 https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com348777 2017-02-04 10:01: comment by <a href="https://www.alzerf.com">amit</a> on "opyright":<br/>livestock https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com348777 Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:01:01 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com348776 2017-02-04 09:58: comment by <a href="mailto:riya142@gmail.com">riya sharma</a> on "opyright":<br/>alzerf pet classified india https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com348776 Sat, 4 Feb 2017 09:58:59 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com267513 2016-04-29 13:40: comment by <a href="http:/www.yakuza4d.com">andar ogel</a> on "opyright":<br/>ogel nline ingapore<br/>ogel nline ongkong<br/>andar ogel ingapore<br/>andar ogel<br/>ogel nline erpercaya<br/>andar ogel nline erpercaya<br/>ogel nline<br/>gen ogel nline erpercaya<br/>gen ogel nline https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com267513 Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:40:57 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000004/#com192842 2015-01-07 07:57: comment by <a href="http://www.newamericanjackets.com/produc">ewmericanackets upernatural acket</a> on "av - he religion of the future":<br/>rilliant concept! ou have shared a significant part of this subject and read as informative piece. https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000004/#com192842 Wed, 7 Jan 2015 07:57:42 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000004/#com84212 2007-07-05 16:44: comment by a-d on "av - he religion of the future":<br/>intriguing -and cool! hanks, friend! https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000004/#com84212 Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:44:33 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000003/#com79848 2007-03-14 01:55: comment by <a href="https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v515">andrasnm</a> on "piritual ublisher?":<br/>self-publishing, have been there and all the way around.... have three books, self-published and now trying to write a fourth and publish it with a publishing house.... https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000003/#com79848 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:55:23 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000003/#com79847 2007-03-14 01:52: comment by <a href="https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v515">andrasnm</a> on "piritual ublisher?":<br/>est soteric, piritual ook for a esterner<br/><br/> publish esoteric, spiritual books as reprints. thought most of the ruth has been written already and most of the newer "ew ge" books were bullocks, until have seen the "onversation with od" . fter that just had to buy and read the book. hat it says is not new to me but a powerful confirmation of the ruth as . s it always been, put in an easy to read format, lacking the anskrit and ancient expressions that some westerners might find obtuse and confusing. ot to mention it is written in the 20th century (most of my books published are in ictorian nglish or otherwise written in the 19th century not so easy to read for most)<br/> n fact alsch put the whole idea in a very nice and readable personal format. o wonder he sold millions of copies. just want to thank the producers of the to shed some lights on this book and the author whom learned to admire and follow now.<br/>ndras agy<br/>www.andras-nagy.com https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000003/#com79847 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:52:25 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com72480 2006-07-25 02:22: comment by <a href="mailto:leetravathan@cox.net">ee ravathan</a> on "opyright":<br/>s a freelance writer and author of several books, feel it is important to copyright just to be sure your words are not turned into something that you did not say or mean. 've had work stolen and turned into pretty sad and ugly stuff because did not "set it in stone", so to speak. nd let's face it - spiritual people deserve to earn a living the same way any other writer does. ou go to a job and you get a paycheck for your time, application, skill or talent. hy shouldn't we and why would it make anyone sad when we do is beyond me to understand without much deeper conversation. t seems nieve to think that we are more valueable because we have a gift and yet not valueable enough to be protected from theft or paid for it. ey, spiritual writers gotta eat too!<br/><br/> https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com72480 Tue, 25 Jul 2006 02:22:10 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000003/#com69280 2006-04-28 19:06: comment by <a href="https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v288">jobrown</a> on "piritual ublisher?":<br/>http://changegrow.blogspot.com/ this is !!! hanks ndrax! lease, stay in touch, eh? : ) /// -d https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000003/#com69280 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:06:21 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000003/#com69271 2006-04-28 15:29: comment by scotty on "piritual ublisher?":<br/> hope that you might find this [<a href="http://www.oneworld-publications.com/proposals.htm" id="posts_0x1_000472-000003_outside_link" target="_blank">link</a>] helpful - don't be put off by the fact that they are based in the as happen to know that they publish internationally !!<br/><br/>ood luck ! https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000003/#com69271 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:29:40 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62907 2005-12-30 08:09: comment by vibrani on "opyright":<br/>thank you for your very thoughtful response and comments about what wrote to you. f course, was aware from day one of putting my stuff out on the internet that people would copy, but do have a notices on my site about the copyright and how work it, and so forth. am not like some people who have sites that require visitors to pay before they can read anything. don't like that kind of gig. put my message on my site and appeal ( hope) to the higher morals in people lol. ort of the honor system. f get screwed, then they'll hear from me. here have been some interesting cases throughout the past ten years, though. ome people who claimed copyright and wanted their stuff on my site - turned out they stole someone else's material and that author and their lawyers, with my help, tracked down the guy and the author and publishers and lawyers seemed satisfied with whatever resulted from that. am also a publisher, so write and publish and publish on my site for others. <br/><br/>hen wrote assumptions about you, it was only assumptions made from what you wrote. don't know you, so had to say "perhaps." ive you the benefit first, ya know. 'm glad to read that you are willing to pay in order to receive. do agree that there could be better plans out there for payments to artists. eminds me - you might like an article about the recording industry [<a href="http://www.vibrani.com/musiceditorial.htm" id="posts_0x1_000472-000002_outside_link" target="_blank">link</a>]<br/><br/>n control - yeah, sure, why shouldn't we be in control of our own lives and our own creations? t is true that we can write and copyright our material and not share it. hen who or what is that for, wonder? ome future time when we're all dead?<br/><br/>hen copyright something it means it is registered with the ibrary of ongress as my work. t doesn't mean you can't use the info you've read in it. n fact, my material is just for that purpose - decide for yourself if it makes sense to you and use what works for you. f not, don't use it. e discerning. https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62907 Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:09:38 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62906 2005-12-30 06:50: comment by <a href="https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v472">indrax</a> on "opyright":<br/>uick note to jerryvest:<br/> know there is a movment among scientists to start open web based peer-reviewed journals. hey either let you keep the copyright, or take it and put the article under an open license. believe there are some in operation, when am more awake will try to find it. ( actually wrote this after the rest of the post.)<br/><br/>ibrani: ou make some good arguments.<br/><br/>irst off, copying a work and claiming credit for it are two very different things. plaigiarism is inherently dishonest, and do not support it in any way. believe in giving credit where it is due. <br/><br/>econdly, fully support creators being paid for their work, but copyright is not the only way to acomplish that. opyright gets people money in exchange for copies, it turns artists into publishers. nstead of wanting to write more articles or make more music, the incentive is to sell more copies. ublishers have a place, but an artist doesn't have to be (or use) a publisher.<br/>he treet erformer rotocol is one way an artist can request payment directly for doing work. here is infinite room for variations to suit different needs, but the basic idea is that an artist with some reputation asks his or her fans to meet a price for the artist's next work. his directly rewards the time, effort and skill of the artist, which naturally scarce.<br/> really wish it were more common to have a pay to pay the artist directly, without so much money going through a record company.<br/>ormally, copyright does create scarcity when the item is charged for. will grant you that this effect is greatly reduced when the item is under a free license, and i do give you a lot of credit for that. y original post didn't adequately take into account the copyrighted-but-free situation. here is still some artificial scarcity with a licence like yours though. <br/> could take the ible (a public domain version), and insert my own commentary every few paragraphs, and this could be a useful thing for many people. could also translate the ible, or just make an easier to read version, or condense it. (ndeed, many people do, and they own their version of 'od's word' which they then shrinkwrap and sell.)<br/> can't make any derivative works from your articles, and that is another form of artificial scarcity. <br/><br/>opyright violation is civilly prosecutable, but only criminal if done for profit. hat is why the few individual filesharers are getting sued instead of going to jail. f course, the law does not dictate morality anyway.<br/><br/>hen a person creates something, it is true that they do not have to publish it. hey can keep it private.(nd would support stronger privacy laws, to protect against unintentional 'publishing') ut once they put it in the public view, the information is as much mine as theirs. ountless songs flow through my mind, is my mind not mine? y free will does not extend to controlling what you do with the book wrote.<br/>hen, there are people, perhaps like you<br/>hank you for adding that 'perhaps' many are not so careful.<br/> do respect artists, but do copy. opying a published work is not abusing anyone, because they are not worse off than if had not copied. do recieve, but do not . am willing to pay in order to recieve, and pay more to fund future works, but am not willing to needlessly limit the spread of information.<br/>ote also: realize that a whole economy is built around copyright, and people depend on this system, but that does not make it right. do support a gradual transition away from copyright. (now 'm getting political though, and that's not my intent.)<br/><br/> do respect artists, but do copy. am motivated by the desire to use the information. like the music.<br/> think it's funny that you bring up a need to control, couldn't the same argument be made about the artist telling people how they can use the work? ifferent sides of the same coin, eh?<br/><br/>maybe it's spite, or anger, or greed, or jealousy (all of it resistance) <br/> don't personally relate to any of these as motivations for copying.<br/><br/>hen copy, do not believe am in lack, have the information, or have access to it. wish only to freely use the information that have. (free as in freedom, not as in price.)<br/><br/>hen you copyright something, you are telling me what can't do with something 've read or heard or seen. don't think that creates a positive flow of energy.<br/><br/>'m against gambling, my point was just that don't need to respect everything a person does to respect the person. https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62906 Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:50:20 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62902 2005-12-30 00:56: comment by <a href="https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v13">bushman</a> on "opyright":<br/>f the information saves lives or make the world a better place, then it must be dropped as copywriten leaflets, on all forms of media, h im sorry you cant run that copywriten information, only the news media in that specific town can read it and tell you about it, you have to pay to save the world and people, didnt you guys know that, fine them ano. https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62902 Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:56:08 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62899 2005-12-30 00:12: comment by <a href="https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v400">jerryvest</a> on "opyright":<br/>copyrights. have worked in universities and colleges for many years and if we wish to continue teaching, we must make a contribution to our profession. hen we do research or write an article, it is reviewed by several people to determine if it meets the standards or expectations of the professional journal. f the article is accepted, the journal requires that you sign a statement that it belongs to them and can not be reproduced without 'their' permission.<br/><br/>nyway, suspect if this process did not exist, others would just steal or borrow the material and call it their own. guess that even with these copyright laws, unethical persons still do not credit the source of the information or research. hus, it is difficult to build on the knowledge or even replicate it if there are no rules.<br/><br/>on't you think that with the advent of he nternet, all of these copyrighted materials will eventually be freely distributed or disclosed? https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62899 Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:12:20 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62877 2005-12-29 08:59: comment by vibrani on "opyright":<br/>es, wrote that...that's my web site. opyright doesn't turn an item into scarcity. s you see, on my site that is free to all to read, people even ask permission to have my articles on their site and have given permission for that, people can share as long as the copyright information and the complete articles remains intact. hat is not a lot to ask of others. rticles by authors are copyrighted and yet they come out in books, or on cds, or online - all costs money to publish. don't copyright just money. hat's a by-product, should choose to do so, and do in some cases. copyright because whatever did came to and through me. t is my creation and yes, claim credit for that. nd because do know that we are all ne, share it, and can make money off of it, too, but don't hide it and keep it from others because feel the information is important to share. <br/><br/>f you had a special skill as a great doctor, or as a lawyer, or a physical therapist, or accountant, or teacher, would you do everything for free in this world? ot even indigenous medicine people do that all of the time. ow would you survive? ou spent years in school to develop your craft, you paid for your training, you put in years perfecting it as best you could, and then just hand it to everyone for free? es, they have a right to charge, so do or anyone else who has a skill or creates something. nd that's still sharing it, while it has our original stamp on it. y the way, copying something that has been copyrighted and claiming you wrote it is a crime and prosecutable. opying it for your personal use, might not be - depending on where you got the item. ust because someone creates something it doesn't mean they to do anything with it for anyone else. hat's free will, isn't it? hen, there are people, perhaps like you, who do not respect another person and what they've done, and you'll do whatever you want to. aybe that's the person's need to control, maybe it's spite, or anger, or greed, or jealousy (all of it resistance) - whatever it might be. nd you'd be the one to figure out why you disrespect what someone tells you up-front and requests for their generosity of sharing something with you, when they don't have to. ratitude is very important in life. hink about energy. feel that if you read something that is copyrighted and/or is for sale because it's spelled out for you, and you defy that, you do not feel for another person, you do not wish to be responsible or give thanks for what that person has done...you want to , not give, not share, yourself. t's being hypocritical, and even more than that. t's intentionally trying to abuse someone. f you go to a site, for instance, that tells you what's what and you don't like it - go somewhere else is my suggestion.<br/><br/>here is a great line in a movie that came out in 2000 - excellent film called "aving race" that says something like this: "f you have to commit a crime in order to get something you want, then maybe you weren't meant to have that thing." xactly right, because if someone believes they are in lack they can't possibly manifest anything other than believing the only way to have something is by stealing it from someone else. owever, the catch here is that they are only stealing from themselves.<br/><br/>ow, if you connect to the ource, you can get the same information. nd if and when it comes through you, you will have your unique imprint upon it, your style, your work that you put into it. t is your creation. hy deny that what you are and what you've created? ou can then copyright it, if you wish to.<br/><br/>hen purchase something consider to be helpful to me, joyfully pay for it because it's helping me in some way, and that will help others, and so on. t is my way of saying thank you to the author. hat way we support each other, too, it creates a positive flow of energy.<br/><br/>he only thing don't understand is when news sites copyright their articles and refuse to let anyone share them or republish them, even with them being intact with the copyright info there. ews does belong to everybody and no one sharing it can sell it to anyone else.<br/><br/>his is not at all akin to gambling for me. don't understand your connecting the two. <br/><br/>ow do you support yourself financially? https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62877 Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:59:39 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62874 2005-12-29 06:17: comment by indrax on "opyright":<br/>hanks vibrani (for clarity, did you write that?)<br/> don't really have a problem with spiritual teachers making money, my problem is with copyright itself. t turns something that is inherently abundant into something scarce. here are ways to make money as a writer without copyright.<br/>hy do you copyright your work? n my mind, just because created something, that does not give me the right to stop other people from copying it.<br/><br/> don't respect copyright. might like a work, and admire the creator, but when they copyright something, they are doing something they don't have a right to.<br/> do not respect copyright in the same capacity as do not respect gambling. https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62874 Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:17:08 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62872 2005-12-29 04:34: comment by vibrani on "opyright":<br/>with you on this, sorry. s an author and artist, do copyright my work and for good reason. am the one who did the work, not anyone else; it is my original creation that do share, but it is copyrighted. respect myself and my work, and respect others and their copyrights. f you respect creative people and their creations, whether it's art, something written, music, an invention, you will respect copyright. offer this article to you and if you feel like commenting on it, do so. [<a href="http://www.vibrani.com/paradigm.htm" id="posts_0x1_000472-000002_outside_link" target="_blank">link</a>] hanging a aradigm. https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000002/#com62872 Thu, 29 Dec 2005 04:34:17 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000001/#com62523 2005-12-15 17:21: comment by <a href="https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v433">rayon</a> on "hilosophy":<br/>in this together https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000001/#com62523 Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:21:09 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000001/#com62488 2005-12-14 20:49: comment by scotty on "hilosophy":<br/>ot sure that do want to change the world - not 'my' world at least :)<br/>'d like to be able to help people to change their world if that's what they want. https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000001/#com62488 Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:49:41 UT https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000001/#com62487 2005-12-14 20:03: comment by <a href="https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v472">indrax</a> on "hilosophy":<br/>silviamar:<br/>t's hard to explain. ne way you could look at it is whatever goal od has for the universe, or it is the general 'direction' of the gradient down which the universe is headed.<br/>nother angle is that it is the sum total of all goals of all people. eople's core desires are never truly incompatible, (ll goals are one,) so 'he oal' is universal self-actualization.<br/><br/>erhaps most pragmatically: 'he oal' is an alamgamation of our goals.<br/><br/>cotty:<br/>ow do you want to change the world? https://newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000472-000001/#com62487 Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:03:50 UT