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30 Oct 2004 @ 09:13, by swanny

I am angry and I quit....
Find someone else to
cuddle and hold you for nothing.

sir


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30 Oct 2004 @ 12:50 by swanny : .....
Even though you don't need them
My prayers will be with you.

sir swan lake  



30 Oct 2004 @ 13:22 by martha : prayers are never wasted
*  


30 Oct 2004 @ 13:58 by shawa : *
I agree with Martha.  


30 Oct 2004 @ 14:33 by scotty : oh but
we DO need them Al - don't give up on us eh ! (hugs)  


30 Oct 2004 @ 17:54 by vaxen : He...
is not giving up on YOU! YOU are giving up on him! Restimulation Puh-lease! Hendoku Iyaku that! Here's a little static rundown from the fleas of Alpha Majoris:

MONGO RA EL MAGNIFICO saith:

"Now lets get some more recognition. All the events were the same: Incident II, Incident I, Game of Gods, etc., even to the degree of Teegeeack (Earth) being a "restricted planet" (A prison planet) and your "political" incidents (Bush et al, Iraq etc.,), and everything, very much parallel to what they did LTA (Last Time Around), because most people ARE keyed in on LTA, especially if they haven't looked for the truth.

They are just following an LTA pattern enforced by Black Static Thetans (Mind controlled altars/Black Magickian types sans bodies)) who are ordered to sort of "hold that time into restimulation on people". So a lot of people get into restimulation.

The lucky ones, like some people when they do Power blow out of LTA or they do a good TR (Training) Course, they blow out of LTA, or do a good run of Objectives, they blow out of LTA.

That is why Scientologists (Utopian Princes from Garn 1) are so fortunate - most of them - but they can get keyed in again to it by some of the phenomena and you see the unfortunate cases of Mayo and a few of the other 'independents' (Flemming is an independent) which are walking marching, steadily down the LTA track, doing exactly what they did LTA.

So realize, that not all the Scientologists (Utopian Princes from Garn 1), shall we say, are in PT (Present Time), TTA (This Time Around). Now since they didn't do Excalibur and since they didn't do OT 13, the Phi Thetans from Last Time Around were never freed as no Thetan took responsibility for the creations he had dumped into the Mest Universe.

So therefore, those creations were left on that position of the playing field. In other words, in the Mest universe, stuff was left where it was on the playing field."

And that's what you see happening here at the NCN cluster implant station. Check it out if you think I'm just 'pulling your leg!' All the varied 'Smorgasbords' of political implant crud yuck! Pictures painted in the mind to restimulate ancient 'Charge!' Somone is feeding off all this bull crap!

Who is the senior holder in this game? Believe it or not NCN is a part, considered by some, who ought to KNOW better, of the FREE ZONE! The term 'FREE ZONE' comes from the 'Free Zone Decree.' Type that into Googlielmos fast fading nightmare dream and see what you come up with.

Also this New Civilization implant is based on 'The New Civilization Game!' GAME! Yes! I said GAME! The rest is all trite commentary (Implanting). It's supposed to be about getting FREE from the clutches of The Global Enslavers! Do'nt think that they exist?

You do'nt think that people, when they come here then leave, are getting implanted and hurt? What hurts them? ME? Hardly! Learn to spot the real suppressors. The real 'Black Static Thetans' practicing 'Bring them all down with your pictures, magick mind control implants, thou shalts, and thou shalt nots etc., ad GUM0 (Games Model Universe 0)! Thou Shalt NOTs? NOTs=New Era Dianetics for Operating Thetans. heh heh ;) Oh you've read this far? Wow!

Heck, I have'nt seen a real Operating Thetan in this world since the last one I trapped over in Copenhagen 20 years ago. Oh, there are those who pretend, still operating on LTA feeds, but...they are few and far between. Like the sylphs. They've gradually gone underground, so to speak. Thetans are really ELEMENTAL spirits, regardless of what the mind trappers of the C0$ have told you!

I ought to know. I create mind implants. I'm a cool Marcabian mind techie with vast resources at my command and we are here to implant you with all of the loveliest devices you can dream of!

But, you'll love it! They would like you to fear us because what we have will bring sanity and peace, joy and wonder, to this once 'Thetan' controlled backwater planet out on the fringes of the Milky Way Galaxy!

Hope you do not leave Al cause really this place is just getting started.
Got case? We can help! ;)
Hendoku Iyaku!

OS RA -G  



30 Oct 2004 @ 18:37 by b : Happy Trails Swanny
Insanity runs rampant here.  


30 Oct 2004 @ 18:50 by vibrani : Swanny
what do you quit and what has made you angry? Are we supposed to guess and assume what's going on?  


31 Oct 2004 @ 04:21 by hgoodgame : Bye Swanny
It's been nice knowing you and reading your log.
:-)  



31 Oct 2004 @ 09:54 by vaxen : Swanny
What is it that you are angry about and just who is it that you are holding? Or is someone holding you? I can understand, perfectly, if you are doing a great job, and I think you are, and you feel very under appreciated why you may feel that no one is giving you the necessary feedback reward of; "Hey, swanny, this is really a cool log!"

Hey, man, sometimes I come here and see that the stuff I put up is getting no kind of 'count!' So what!? There are no popularity contests going on here unless they be covert. Now that is highly probable, and you may be feeling the 'backstabbing,' going on there but just consider who is 'Source.'

I could tell you some stuff about 'black NOTs' cases that would rekindle your flame, and curl your toes, but...more on that later.

There is an ORG here at NCN, however much it may be a 'Reversed ORG Board (ROB),' and it functions, however crazily, just like any other organization in the business world.

Laid back, crooked, not straight, full of freaky things, people, places...

May I ask why you joined in the first place? To lay a trip on us? To find out who you are? What is your Raison D'etre for being here swanny? Are you being held by someone against your will? Some force drawing your life force out without replacing it with something of equal value (Like our new Markabian, high tech, whisper blood)? Need a job?

Hell man, this came right out of the blue (Green, yellow, pink?) for me. When I quit I normally do'nt tell anyone. That you have makes me think that you want to communicate and, perhaps, feel undervalued. If you need a break you do'nt have to give up membership. Live dangerously, communicate!

As you can see there are lots of people who are members but who never come here (Can you really blame them?). Does'nt mean they do'nt exist and influence the BORG. Now that's being straight with you so...please, let us/me know what is on your mind.

Pardon me if I have not been paying enough attention to you. No excuses. I'll try better to understand what it is that you do here and what you have to offer. Hope you do'nt leave.

But you certainly have the right to your own sanity as well as the right to leave this game. Please discuss it first, though...nah, I do'nt need any body's prayer. A little straight talk, ARC S, would be nice though...

Hell, come ta think o'it...I may e'en consider leavin wi ya. ;) Tha'd be Gru na would'na?  



1 Nov 2004 @ 04:11 by ov : My Two Cents
I'm not sure when Al took his blog off the board, I know he used to have one, but this isn't Al's blog, this is a community blog, and Al was the only person that created new posts, and very few people made comments.

I look back through all the posts that have been made here, and I see an effort at creating a public space. The topics seem to be all of a conversation starter type, to talk about us and how we feel. It's a small talk place. I don't know why I've never posted until now, perhaps because I'm not a social type of person, and only now I post because this is a sociology type of comment.

I would like to get involved with a place that has a web conference. where ongoing discussions can be carried on. Not this post some informtion and everybody has a day to add some comments before it gets scrolled out of sight. Not like the 'rooms' which are single channel chat venues with a scroll long enough to choke most browsers. A real conferencing software, where I can get an overview of what I've read and what I haven't, where the new activity is, and do it in twenty seconds instead of a couple of hours and a log book and pencil on the side. These blogs are good for blogs, to post an article that you want to display and collect a couple of comments, but they totally suck for ongoing discussion and anything that spans more than a day or two.

My two cents. Sorry swanny for not helping out but the software is just too painful.  



1 Nov 2004 @ 13:04 by swan : My two cents.
I have seen people get discourage at NCN more than once, including myself. What I have learned is this is a place for me to express myself and connect with poeple in certain ways and when I have expectations I set myself up for disappointment, just like if I have expectations in my life.

My newslog serves the purpose of sharing my inner world, through my art and writing and that in itself is satisfying to me. When people make comments that is an extra bonus and when there is dialog it is excitingly unexpected. Sometimes I wonder if anyone has read what I write and wonder why others don't comment, but I have learned that many people may read my log and I will never know. I got a message a couple of weeks ago that from a person who said they joined NCN because of something I wrote in my newslog. We never know how we touch others, that is mystery.

There is an opportunity here to create groups with other people and that creates another level of interaction. I have been involved in a lot of groups and I have created a number of them myself. Some of them work for a while, some never left the ground and others have skyrocketed beyond what I thought possible.

I created two art galleries, one of my own and one a community gallery. They were active for a while and then no one visited any longer. When thiings got quiet in those spaces it was time for them to be taken down, not because the art was no longer valuable but because they had served their purpose. Some times the purpose is different than what was intended but that does not diminish its value.

I thought this newslog was a breath of fresh air when fresh air was needed and it opened to new possibilities. Maybe that was its soul purpose and value and because it didn't grow beyond that does not diminish its value.

I am sorry Swanny got angry, for a reason that is not clear by his statement here. I am sorry he feels he must quit because of that anger.

And now the possibility exists that he will not return to read any of this...but that does not diminish its value.  



1 Nov 2004 @ 14:10 by shawa : Others read
After all it´s a "collective" newslog, put up by "Anonymous", lol!

I came back to read the thread and maybe post a comment, and find Swan´s, right above. I agree with her. Groups work in strange ways (strange, that is : if you are not familiar with group dynamics), and in this one, the NCN Member Area, well, it´s even stranger, because it´s not even "a group" - and even less...a community. As was said before, it´s "Grand Central Station"; people take trains, change trains, create new ones, destroy old ones that don´t work anymore - as Swan says so well right above, the variety of possibilities is enormous.
Having expectations when one signs up in here often leads to disaster, and though I´m sorry that Sir Swan left without sharing what happened for him, it´s a free world (yup, it still is!Lol), so put your stakes on the tables, claim your winnings, cut your losses -you can´t expect coordination between passengers on the trains, only from a few timetables, and perhaps from the little cafés that sprung up near the departure points.  



4 Nov 2004 @ 09:21 by swanny : Groups and Global Grace
Yes yes.... this is a group space.....
I seemed to be the only one in it .....
Actually I quit weeks before.....
No one even noticed
Well I quess one or so did......
There is a synergy in a group
a gird or net of energies
thought patterns
concrete perhaps not but real none the less....
Common ground.....
This is common ground where we "meet"

Hath thou the need for the services of a fool
Your Highness.....
For what can a fool do..... pray tell....
but lift the heart of sorrow....

Tis a heavy load the heart of sorrow....
Heavier than most know.....
I shall lift it if I canst
But if not I will be crushed by its weight....

What can be done with a heart of sorrow....
Should it perhaps not lift and love itself.....
And why doth it sorrow.....
And lie on pieces on the ground.....
Smashed by the gravity of betrayal.....


But wait......
Is it not said that one reaps what is sown....
Then also let he that has sown the wind.....
Also reap the whirl wind.......




or many bad hair days........
*sic*





Resume for "fool"  



4 Nov 2004 @ 09:34 by vibrani : With all due respect, Swanny
Thanks for explaining. I read your log, and sometimes comment to it. Once in a while I don't get your posts - like a picture and nothing else. I don't know what to say about that, so I say nothing. Other times I enjoy what you post. You rarely comment to my log. Sometimes I feel ignored by some people here, too, but I get over it because there are other ways of communicating here and logs are not just for comments. Some logs are just for self-expression without a care of who reads them. Sometimes I've removed my log temporarily. But, I mostly post because I have a need to share and communicate. I am one who likes occasional feedback, probably as you do. Sometimes a time off from NCN helps sort things out, and usually being open about what's bugging us helps clear the air.  


4 Nov 2004 @ 13:19 by swan : Swanny
it is hard to know that someone has quit if they just take down their newslog because the nature of the newslogs is you read what is at the top and what falls to the bottom or disappears is paid little attention until the newslog writer revives it. In order to get the full benefit of this site one must move around and be active in the other spaces. If one is active in that way their leaving is noticed because they are an active part of what is happening. This is not to say that you are not active if you are writing logs and commenting but it is easier to slip into the cracks of anomininity if that is your only vehicle of communication. For example I might not write a newslog for a few weeks and might not comment on a newslog for a while and I don't think others would notice. But if I did that and stopped communicating to my friends in other ways( email, chatrooms, workspaces) people would begin to wonder what happened to me. I hope? :-)  


4 Nov 2004 @ 14:39 by vibrani : Definitely
Swanny, when you just throw out something and angrily dump it on people without explanation (and really undeserved), what do you expect?  


4 Nov 2004 @ 19:11 by vibrani : P.S.
don't think it hasn't been noticed that you have not commented here to me and Swan but you have managed to comment to others on another page in your log. So, should we bother at all?  


4 Nov 2004 @ 19:29 by swanny : Oh sorry ninhursaq
I hadn't even noticed..... sorry
Hmmmm
I quessed I missed you......
thankyou for being persistent.....
I guess persistence can pay aye!
thats one of the problems with this asychronistic communication
format..... what that means is there is no particular
or normal converational rythmn or tempo in this medium
honest mistakes can and do happen therefore as a
condition of the medium.....
hmmmm it is a problem but can anything be done about
it short of say setting up appointments or meeting of dialogue
and discussion....
Hmmm not sure if thats the answer myself....
asychronous communication has these problems true
but it does have certain "surprising" benefits as well....
I suppose we could vote on it.....
Any comment?  



4 Nov 2004 @ 19:45 by vibrani : Exactly
there is the time element in responses, and the possibility of missing something, or possible overload from all the logs and articles. That's why one may do better not to be too serious or too sensitive about getting responses. I am also speaking from my own experience. I check to see if someone has commented to something, at least one thing, in my log within a couple of weeks' time. We also have to remember that people are drawn to certain logs and topics more than others. When I began wondering if anyone was reading my log, I asked around. People said they were but not leaving comments. Then how was I to know? So, I suggested if someone read it but has nothing particular to say about it, to leave a mark, like a * or a *.* or a smiley face, and those who want to remain anonymous certainly can. That is working out quite well, I think. This way we don't feel left out in the boonies.  


4 Nov 2004 @ 19:51 by ov : Get Conferencing Software
{link:forums.alternet.org/guest/motet?home|Forums at Alternet} is an example of a conferencing software that works really nice. This link takes you to the guest mode which doesn't require registration and if you do register then there are a lot of features that allow you to streamline and manage a large number of posts. It's kind of like the difference between a purse full of match books with phone numbers written on them, and a well organized PAL. Like the difference between Excel and Visicalc.

First generation software would be a chat channel with a scroll archive, kind of like what we have here. Second generation would be like a bulletin board, PHPnuke, ultimateBB and scores of others. Third generation would be a conferencing software that has navigation features, filtering, record of whats new, etc. A decent conferencing software would enable communities of a couple hundred active posters, plus an order of magnitude more of occasional and lurkers, and could be done with less time than the dozen or so regulars we have here in the blogs.  



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