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Xanadu 2012: Warm Architecture |
Category: Articles 10 comments 24 Nov 2005 @ 13:12 by swanny : linkWarm Arch Link = http://www3.telus.net/public/ajonas/time/warm.html 24 Nov 2005 @ 18:32 by rayon : Nice link swanny illustrating poem, good fun pics. Luckily we can play them at our leisure with impunity. They can work as a time machine transporting us to any age we choose, in fact I think Architecture for the Romans in particular was their WWW portal. The triumphal Arch passed thro by returning conquering heros for a moment experienced the meeting of linear time (sequence of events, historical) and constant time (eternity of soul). In other words the arch carried them into another domain of realisation for those moments, one can see how they continualy succeeded. So to me the love in the poem, and the joy, is another way of describing a palpable effect of architecture, more than the sum of its parts! 24 Nov 2005 @ 19:38 by swanny : Well thankyou Thanks the poem is one of my own and the pic site one I did up this morning I was struggling though to find examples of "warm architecture" because it has sort of been a forgetten architecture but the image of the world displays it nicely and so in a way does the geosolar one.... we can hope.... yes architecture in itself is a very strong "archtype" looking at the pic of the "cold" architecture of the 50s one sees sort of a vainglorious triumph over nature and the heart statement perhaps.... the supremacy of mind over matter and emotion yet here in the new century we see this emergence of "new country" which is a kind of convergence or "transvergence" of many elements and styles. Yes "synergy" I think the modern terminology is "whole system design" the very thing the drew me to New Civ. Yes your ideas are quite sound though... architecture can be a sort of "time machine"... 25 Nov 2005 @ 02:00 by swanny : Update I updated the page somewhat and reordered it to time.... not to bad Arch Page Link = http://www3.telus.net/public/ajonas/time/warm.html 29 Nov 2005 @ 13:01 by rayon : Dear Swanny the parthenon should 560 BC not 1500 (if so, it would be Minoan) - not that one wants to disturb the play in any way! The Warm bit I assume to be an endearing personal generic wishing to be employed. Not sure about triumphing over Nature, the building is the physical meeting point of nature and human, which can be done according both the particular dictates of nature at that point and/or those of the human perceiving through his cultural set. Yours is perhaps wistful arcadian? Yes,there is Convergence with Frank Lloyd Wright, but this is unusual for a leading western new world country - what societal restrictions are doing the converging here? (apart from the American Indian) so to me FLW (Falling Water fame) is strictly speaking forcing the issue because that is what he Wants to Feel, as the people also responding to his work do, my personal feeling is that it augments an emptiness with something more, but also constricts strongly. Just playing the muses . . . so let me see, what are your other references. Don't be cross with me here, but 5,000 BC is not square mud hut. If Bronze Age is desired, roundish dwelling is required, stone wall about 3 feet high, supporting huge thatch roof centring on large poles with opening for the smoke from hearth to rise up and out, and clustering with others. All of which however, goes against the notion of Warm architecture which merits as a notion, and the idea should be carried far as - but, what philosophy/theory to employ in its justification?? I am searching here for you, to set in concrete the endearing personal generic . . hah 29 Nov 2005 @ 15:54 by swanny : hee hee Hee hee November 29, 2005 (apparently) Tuesday Autumn Morning Well yes it is a crude attempt to be sure.... The bronze age though wasn't that around 2500 BC perhaps earlier in China actually I have a reference for "stonehedge" but wonder if stonehedge is more a device of some sort than architecture I've wondered if stonehedge is attempt at a clock.... and yes "warm" is significant .... highly so.... I was even thinking of getting a book supposedly on it called "Of Fire and Memory" or something although I ran into one that seems even better that "How Buildings Learn" is significant I think....an reproaches Wright "?arrogance" Yes it is a lot to manage I'll admit and your assistance is appreciated and the day seems off to a roaring start and the country Canada has just been called into election mode .... plus Christmas and New Years does madness have greater heights than these two or three? sighs sir 1 Dec 2005 @ 13:58 by rayon : Yes .... Bronze age, probably lasted quite a long time, thousands of years up to 2,400 BC. Say from the v least 5,000 BC, even more, because they do not really know how old Egypt is. The Natural History and British Museum, still do not admit to the Earliest known Indian Indus valley civilisations, or the ruins in the sea around Malta, all square and ordered (WET arch?). Of course there could have been simultaneous age's running concurrently then as now!!! Know the book How Buildings Learn, but not read. By the way, your log is not crossreferenced the Buildings, Architecture heading where all similar subject logs collect quick reference? Don't mind working with you on this project, but have not a clue how it will work out!!! Guess in the Snowy wastes of Canada, all buildings are Warm!!! Anyway lets run with it. Wright was not arrogant, he only started building his first buildings age 60!! He had a different mind set (perhaps against wide open spaces!). (NB:Taste is not permitted in professional discussion of style etc, neither preferences: one's liking has to be somehow put in the undertones of whatever is said - this makes it more scientific) Try searching under Mario Botha (from Switzerland for modern examples) and also A N Other in Finland, Aldo, (both iconic status designers) adds gravitas. One point for W Arch, is with Global Warming, the warmth of Gulf Stream is dispersing, so in UK certainly the winters are getting COLDER. You see the point here? for WARM arch. Hope you are having another nice Autumn day, don't you say Fall in the Americas? For Now, Nicola 2 Dec 2005 @ 00:36 by swanny : Thanks for your help... Thanks Nraye... I'm a little slow I guess gettin old or stubborn or both... *sighs* it hard to keep up at times anyway I've updated the site again... and tried to make it printable to pdf extration I printed out some copies in pdf from the website and they look fairly good heres the link again.... warm arch link = http://www3.telus.net/public/ajonas/time/warm.html enjoy swanny *darn "broke" again* *sighs* 2 Dec 2005 @ 12:44 by rayon : Very good Excellent, what about listing it in the configure newslog section (at the bottom of the page is Menu listing all the Categories at NCN) you will see Buildings, Housing Architecture. Because the list as it is needs cheering up somewhat. See Yah 2 Dec 2005 @ 14:35 by swanny : Thanks again... 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