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Xanadu 2012: Joy? |
Category: Articles 12 comments 11 Dec 2006 @ 01:51 by swanny : Revised PollPerhaps I should conduct a poll. A Poll Is joy the fufillment of the law? State yes, no, maybe or sometimes and perhaps you could post why? ed 11 Dec 2006 @ 02:08 by swanny : Sometimes I say sometimes because even though Joy and Love are not "legal" terms they can sometimes though rarely occur in the fulfillment of the Law. sir swan of the lake 11 Dec 2006 @ 02:31 by bushman : Hmm, In North Korea it apperes that it is. I will say Maybe. Why?, well I seen this show about North Korea last night. Was pretty intresting, I mean, if I was born there, and didn't know any better, it looks like fun, saw kids as young as 3 playing music, they have these pagents to the leader, totaly awsome stuff, was almost like a fantasy land show, they looked pretty happy/joyus to me. Its like a football halftime show, but goes all day, and everyone plays a part. You know, Id like to know how they can get over 100,000 people to be so syncronized and graceful. Even odder is they know english, and know all our songs, as well as thier own native dances. They also showed some of the poorer people, but even they seem to participate. Of corse there was plenty they wouldn't talk about or show. Heres a link. {http://www.donparrish.com/NorthKorea.html} 11 Dec 2006 @ 02:52 by swanny : Okay Okay, not sure what to say, So you like that disneyland kind of thing, I guess for me its okay once in a while but it could become tedious. 11 Dec 2006 @ 17:06 by skillz : hmm If "the law " means oboeying state rules to keep us opressed then no it is not possible to find TRUE happyness. One mite be blissful in ignorance but thats not real joy. If you can find joy within state rules then someone else is suffering for your joy. 11 Dec 2006 @ 17:49 by swanny : the state Well the state is human is it not? Well hmmm interesting or is it? Is the state human? Well it must be.... there has to be something human there however thick the skin... State is only skin deep? or...? perplexed on the moon 12 Dec 2006 @ 01:23 by bushman : Hmm Id say the state is a mechanical android, it cant make unique decisions, without adding parts, then by doing so, it cancels out the uniqueness. But the state is an idea of humans. Like did the native americans live in joy, before they got invaded? I dont think so personaly. Now "law enforcment" might bring joy to some depending on the law being enforced. Truly in that case, its 50/50, the victum feels joy when the bad guy is caught, but, the bad guy is probably feeling no joy at all, maybe he did during the commision of the crime. I still have to go with "maybe" on your poll. But Dkill, what if they don't know they are oppressed? 12 Dec 2006 @ 03:54 by swanny : Parent/Child/Adult Well I forget who it was that came up with this paradigm I think hmmmm who was? Didn't he write? well not sure. He stated each person having within themselves these three states, Adult child and parent. Children in a sense are oppressed or not oppressed but "sheltered" It seen as innocence though and not ignorance. But in some senario some might see innocence as ignorance of a sort. And they say "ignorance is bliss" but ignorance is misunderstood and a misnomer at times and assumed to mean stupidity. Although in general ignorance is knowing something but disregarding or 'ignoring' it like consequences or what have you. And as the law states "Ignorance of the law is no excuse." Stupidity of the law is not much better. As if you don't know the laws and your rights are you ignorant, stupid or innocent. In this society generally a parent guides and shelters the child. Then to some degree the adults in society guide and shelter the parents. But when is one truly an adult? When does one know it all? Answer Never. You have to at some points and junctures trust at some points and have faith at other points that the adults in society work together in the best interests of all, themselves included. No and it doesn't always work and mistakes are made and there are some "questionable" types or sorts of people... but new lessons are learned, old lessons are forgotten and relearned but hey I mean it is despite the.... well what have ... "you are a child of the universe, no less than the trees..." Desiderata 12 Dec 2006 @ 17:59 by skillz : Very intresting .. Bushman - If they dont know they are opressed then they are unaware but not ignorant. But what if as a child you ate an icecream on a hot summers day and really enjoyed it at that moment, but later in life you learned that in order for u 2 get that icecream children had to die (thats just an example). Many people are blissfully unaware that their short term joys are at the expence of others long term misery and even death. Ignorance is when the facts are very much acknowlegable but ignored. There is NO excuse for ignorance. Swanny -If someone does'nt know the laws then they are not stupid or ignorant but unaware. "The law" is an unatural system. The system doesnt try to prtect our children or parents, it just trys to protect itself from US. Although the stupid, ignorant and unaware are keeping the system running, we are all potencialy their greatest threat. The stupid and the ignorant are one and the same. The system is not an adult, but a very troubled child. 12 Dec 2006 @ 22:55 by bushman : Innocents, is not ignorance, animals are innocent wheather they kill or not. So as long as humans put themselves above all others, that is true ignorents. As well, some of us know better, which eliminates innocents in some. Deffinetly works both ways, and again as Dkill mentions, its all momentary, when it comes to what is being felt. Because some knowledge, does or can lead to ignorents, but never brings back or props-up, a persons innocents. Once innocents is gone, its gone forever. For instance the innocent Thornbird, builds a nest for its mate in a thorny bush, then in its ignorents, it jumps around in joy of its new nest, impailing himself on the thorns. He felt joy for a moment, then pain, because he should know better than to jump around in a bed of thorns. Joy may be, just an illusion of ego? 13 Dec 2006 @ 00:44 by swanny : Hmmm "Joy may be just an illusion of ego?" bushman Have to think on that... I know a lot of other feelings strike me as an illusion of ego but "joy"... It's kind of hard to fake joy... or delude joy... I mean hmmmm well???? Mind you, you don't see a heck of a lot of joy as I define it these days. Glee perhaps but joy...??? Not really so how would people know or recognize it or distinguish it from glee? swanny 13 Dec 2006 @ 02:35 by bushman : Hmm, I have no idea how to tell between glee and joy, tears of joy, a mother holding her baby the first time, father feels mothers joy, but may not be the same kind of joy. So many words, for the same thing? A joyous occasion, is more like glee. Other entries in Articles 23 Aug 2022 @ 09:55: Gravity battery ref 23 Aug 2022 @ 09:53: Gravity battery ???. 2 May 2022 @ 06:45: How to Get Quality Dofollow Backlinks 23 Nov 2021 @ 18:26: What is Linkbuilding 25 Jun 2021 @ 15:37: Longitude at sea? 24 Aug 2020 @ 12:42: Climate and ocean 24 Aug 2020 @ 12:37: Climate update Aug 2020 15 Mar 2020 @ 19:11: Hang in.. 29 Jul 2019 @ 16:12: Onward 28 Feb 2019 @ 14:41: Solar Neighborhood pic
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