 25 Oct 2010 @ 18:38, by Unknown
oct 25 2010 mon 6:51 AM MDT RD AB CA re: Health reform expected to top agenda
Finding and Sticking someone in a bed the state of the art of health care? Well I suppose but theres more to life and health than lying in a bed. and perhaps you kind of have to ask the patient to, so Ms so and so what would good health and life mean to you? etc
Rather than a charter then that is non binding perhaps some kind of definitions and understanding of health for the various ages, genders and the spiritual, mental, physical and emotional aspects. Would some kind of "vision" document for health care thus at least give us something to aim for. And it should extend to more than just the individual but a community health vision statement or mission or such particular to the needs and desires and biomes of each community.
A lot of the health care woes actually can be traced back to problems in the environment and problems with job satisfaction and poor communications and diet and family issues. True you can not get a one size fits all thing but if you have a vision and a basic general standard to work from and with then you'd have something that could be referred to and improved or tweaked as needed.
An example? hmmmm of a healthy community? Well Findhorn in Scotland comes to mind but I suppose you'd just need to research what community spends less or more effective dollars on health care costs and what kind of quality is achieved, Some that have good dietary aspects are said to be healthier and European Mountains people too, but good question what community is perhaps the healthiest in the world right now? And thus follow their lead to a degree.
Health is a complex issue after all and a cross and multidisciplinary thing too, It also has holistic aspects to it. And maybe use Abraham Maslow's (peak experience and needs pyramid) and Fritz Perls (gestalt) approach and not study why people are sick but study those that are well and healthy and etc
ed Jonas
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RDgirl1964 wrote:
Excellent points - albeit esoteric. Defining what "health" means does little in the way of fixing the system. 50% of tax dollars in Alberta go to pay for healthcare. It's giant black hole - and just throwing more $$$ at the problem, or discussing "health" won't fix things. Operational and funding changes are long overdue. My 2 cents worth.
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joe fool writes:
Well thanks but I don't agree that the definition of "health" is a moot point. How can health be "restored" if we have no mutual or consensual concept or definition or standard of what it is in the first place. True I suppose it can be somewhat of a "subjective" measure which is problematic as we see in the area of mental health but there are as well objective criteria and measures such as temp and blood pressure, weight and things etc that tests reveal. So I would tend to disagree and say that we need some kind of subjective and objective measure or model or norm from which to make the restorative aspects and attempts relevant. The reason we a shooting thus in the dark or a black hole itself suggests that there is not target or model to shoot for. Now given the current world, as a model or example from my point of view , I would say the Dali Lama is somewhat a picture of health for his age and gender in a subjective and objective measure or assessment although I would say that might be further confirmed and identified through testing.
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