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picture10 Jan 2012 @ 00:32, by Unknown

9 Jan 2012
ab ca
Monday
5:27 pm MST

re: moral compasses and money and the environment

interesting how moral compasses tend to align with where ones income is derived from .... as though morality is based strictly on justifying ones income somehow....
seems a strange way to run a just and reasonable society...
where justice and morality is a direct function of the job or career or position that gives one ones livelihood.....
seemingly then thus anything could be justified and be considered moral and lawful on that basis. ....

read laws and needs

link = [link]

The defining and logical concluded fact and aspect though perhaps might be that of:
life = good.....
death = bad.....
but i suppose some would even argue that point.....

and in the background is the environment which is that basis of all.... politics, humans, society, mortality, laws, income, money, economy, etc etc..... even spirituality
a dollar thus and economy that is not rooted and beholding to the environment then has no credibility or solid basis, as economy is a subset of environment in ecological economics.

in the battle of human vs human..... nature invariably wins!

cheers to you and carry on...

ed Jonas


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10 Jan 2012 @ 00:47 by swanny @207.34.102.16 : oversuccess
9 jan 2012
monday
ab ca
5:45 pm mst

re: ?

Well then i suppose there is the fact of our/humanities "over success".... at 7 billion strong we must be doing something right or over right and that may be the reformers point is that we've really got to get on with the job and screw this planet up even worse to get our numbers down.... so give you credit there pm steve.... praise jesus and all...

ed jonas  



10 Jan 2012 @ 01:27 by swanny @207.34.102.16 : roar....
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9 Jan 2012
Monday
ab ca
6:15 pm MST

re: ?

link = http://goo.gl/6Vbmw

yes and do what.... lets have some meat, potatoes and ideas and bucks on the table instead of just back biting and tongue wagging and insults.....

we've got 7 billion people houses to heat and cool
and 800 million cars to fuel and electric cars won't work if they're powered by coal fired electric generators which are worse than gas
and people are to spoiled to use public transit
and china already has population controls but India and Africa are lacking there
and so who is going to pay for going green
and how are we going to repair the damage from the fertilizers we need to feed ourselves ....
okay and etc etc...
and where are we going to find the money to pay back the environmental deficit of 35 trillion $....
i thought we could create and inject $50 trillion into a global eco trust fund administrated and loaned at .0005% by the UN or world courts or G20 and a green and ethical banking system
and we could put a price roll back on the housing and real estate market and freeze the average CA house price at $100,000 for 5 years
with the mortgage and equity amounts equally adjusted downward so as to bring house prices back in line with wages
so some can actually afford to buy and pay for the ground/reality price of houses ....
instead of house prices going up at 10% and wages going down 0.5% per year..

are you with me here or are you just going to keep pissing in the wind...

ed jonas  



11 Jan 2012 @ 01:11 by swanny @207.34.102.16 : natural capital
10 jan 2012
tues
ab ca
5:50 pm mst

re: the bill $$$$$$$

i was just wondering..... are these kind generous and loving folks who are viewing their sentiments, concerns, ideas and love of life and earth, being compensated for such $, or has such as love, nature, heart, ideas, sentiment, soul, spirit, care, time, effort to get to the meeting and through the process, have no value or worth. Sure some may be stooges and shills for the eco nuts and the oil companies and banks and gov and lawyers and members of the board and media and i'm sure none of them are talking or presenting or working for free or pro bono but what about say the 3000 rest or so and the natives .... who is paying their hotel, food and such....??? just curious.....a good way to get free cheap help or ? reformers ..demonize and. insult people and their values and have them pour out their hearts and minds and souls and ideas for nothing.... I guess you can get "social license" for nothing then.... sad.... I think each person that talks should get $100 for their 10 minutes of ? well what would you call such?... info... knowledge.... care..... input....love..... stats....? and such added to the cost and bill of the project... $100 x 4000 .... your social license thus will ding you for $400,000 and that's cheap...and that's if Weibo decides to leave you alone.... we are supposed to be living in the info/knowledge age yet info seems to be cheap.....numbers say it all then .... really?

NATURES HAND
EJ
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