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4 Jul 2012 @ 17:33, by Unknown

re: discovery of the god particle july 2012

gives all matter in the universe its size and shape???
according to who?
perception being in the eye of the beholder as it were....
as far as that goes i thought the structure of the universe was based on the hydrogen atom....??? these sub atomic particles are to much bother and expense if you ask me.... and just so much whoooey... and self and mass hypnosis....
thus the god particle is and always has been the hydrogen atom.... thank you very much.


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5 Jul 2012 @ 00:35 by bushman : Um
it's my understanding that this so called god partical is what imparts mass to an atom as well as it's ability to hold itself together, creating the atom as it's 3 obvious parts, protons, neutrons, and electrons. Pointing out size does not matter unless your talking Planets, and as well both shapes are always spherical when it comes to Atoms and Planets. Also both objects have a spin state that does not seem to relate to thier overall size or Mass. Shape only come into play when objects come together to form molocules as far as I know.  


5 Jul 2012 @ 01:29 by swanny @207.34.102.16 : well..
Re: Higgs boson discovery july 2012

well sorry but this discovery doesn't really tell us or me anyway much that we didn't know already or before but does perhaps only provide proof for what many or some took as a matter of course or faith.... as far as being able to exploit it... that is doubtful and probably unwise....
this is sort of old news thus in accordance to accounts as far back as 60 BC....
see source below....

FORMATION OF THE WORLD AND
ASTRONOMICAL QUESTIONS - 416 - 768
But in what modes that conflux of first-stuff
Did found the multitudinous universe
Of earth, and sky, and the unfathomed deeps
Of ocean, and courses of the sun and moon,
I'll now in order tell. For of a truth
Neither by counsel did the primal germs
'Stablish themselves, as by keen act of mind,
Each in its proper place; nor did they make,
Forsooth, a compact how each germ should move;
But, lo, because primordials of things,
Many in many modes, astir by blows
From immemorial aeons, in motion too
By their own weights, have evermore been wont
To be so borne along and in all modes
To meet together and to try all sorts
Which, by combining one with other, they
Are powerful to create: because of this
It comes to pass that those primordials,
Diffused far and wide through mighty aeons,
The while they unions try, and motions too,
Of every kind, meet at the last amain,
And so become oft the commencements fit
Of mighty things - earth, sea, and sky, and race
Of living creatures.

60 BCE Roman Poet
Lucretius
Book IV (Dover Classics 2004 Page 159)
Note: suggests itself to be a precursor somewhat to "trial and error" thinking, and empirical progression and even alludes somewhat to C. Darwin's much later ideas of "natural selection" and evolution.  



5 Jul 2012 @ 01:55 by swanny @207.34.102.16 : om
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edjonas2012/07/04
at 11:29 AM ET
re: discovery of the god particle july 2012

gives all matter in the universe its size and shape???
according to who?
perception being in the eye of the beholder as it were....
as far as that goes i thought the structure of the universe was based on the hydrogen atom....??? these sub atomic particles are to much bother and expense if you ask me.... and just so much whoooey... and self and mass hypnosis....
thus the god particle is and always has been the hydrogen atom.... thank you very much.
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radar172012/07/04
at 11:47 AM ETHide radar 17 wrote:
Well edjonas, if that comment isn't the most damning indictment of our crippled education system then I don't know what is....
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ed jonas writes:
Well apparently Steve jobs was pretty good at reality distortion fields as well and it made him billions..$......so horrah to bs i guess.....

perception and relativity are a matter of degree after all... you obviously haven't been in a court of law where witnesses who saw the exact same event give totally different accounts of it even though they saw the very same thing or you haven't read don Juan "separate reality" books.... i mean how long is humanity going to ask the age old question of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? now laws of nature yes those i can grant mostly as they are of the unposited laws of sorts... but when some one starts telling me that 6 is actually 7 then i get a little concerned... although there is the synergy effect...... so okay but do higgs bosons evolve then?
don juan says the true mover and shaper of the world is "intent"....

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_distortion_field
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synergy  



5 Jul 2012 @ 23:25 by swanny @207.34.102.16 : atlas
re: Atlas boson

well just offhand i'd say that usually you lay the cornerstone first and built on it.... this jimmying it after the institution is made is a little suspect..... as well some say it has no practical applications but I would say holding the universe together is a pretty practical application but then i wonder if a particle can hold the universe together then it would be more than a simple particle and more than a mere corner stone and be somewhat more complex perhaps like blue glue or glue logic or glue code but none the less it ain't God maybe atlas but not God so i shall refer to it as the Atlas Particle or the Atlas Boson named after the Collider....

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_%28mythology%29

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glue_code  



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